# 90 Taco Tokens in a search for Red Rulk. **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [December 19, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892 "2015-12-19T21:10:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pwuz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@Pwuz](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pwuz)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 9:10pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/1 "2015-12-19T21:10:47Z")
Since I cover maxed every 3\*, I’ve started stockpiling my Taco Tokens hoping for a good chance to pull more 4\* covers. This week I cashed in what I had for Sweet Tokens. This is not the order pulled: ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) 3 ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2 ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 2\* ![icon_ares.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/8/84e8ea53e3dbe323d525923eebf805c72eb03b0b.png) 2 ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) 2 ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) 2\* ![icon_blackwidow.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/de723b8f3cd468af5f54df4ea61cebb301a723ea.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) 2 ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) 2\* ![icon_bullseye.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/eaa7151b611781e09b7ea1b9fcdfa40a9d0d2663.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2 ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 2\* ![icon_captainamerica.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/9/90b937ecb5d7a183db6dbc727282c740549c0cb7.png) ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 2\* ![icon_ms_marvel.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d157e6ed2d7c4d588fb4676e2ec0de824b2ada25.png) 4 ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) 2\* ![icon_daken.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/8/86cdbc11b2e7f9d88cfe7db9c2bfcdaeece732ea.png) 3 ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) 2 ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2\* ![icon_hawkeye.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4939f387f6036c2bc69f9789f3d160728ef51ad1.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) 3 ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2\* ![icon_humantorch.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/9/99a9c7e75be1ff018ec13513679cce811d0a180e.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) 2 ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2\* ![icon_magneto.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/2629adc18a21f80e2fbd892e5a72a4a9512f4aa2.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2\* ![icon_moonstone.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/cce6e4fc8f762a1a10fb922ff31beef3ed1b8a33.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 2\* ![icon_storm.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b5aee7b84bb7e4fc2757959f5766e1472a8b0e22.png) 3 ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) 2 ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) 2\* ![icon_thor.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/1/1da7470c667641daa86ea313d4b76223a01cb024.png) 4 ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 2\* ![icon_wolverine.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/6/6c7e5bf3ffb1570ed87e60579343de2d6cc2c99c.png) 10 ![healthpackbig.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7578c89264198242e27852451f22aa945a7e93fc.png) (5) 9 ![iso8big.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4abc05e20d674a3f34f9c92851c181a98e94f040.png) (1500) 5 ![heropointsbig.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/f/fb153ae652d0a3d93d35e89fea53c9e3e264be98.png) (250) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) 3\* ![icon_groot.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/53e7b4fdff873fd413e9c1076ae40ae5da5736db.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) 3\* ![icon_ironfist.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/c14af6a05cb1ad753b4e9568684ac4f3d9fbe633.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) 3\* ![icon_ironman.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/e8fd1e4bf14f6352b51d969117c36995afa79ace.png) ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![redflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/5/55ea15d0d31883791268967ccb1a7a244ffa4bce.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) 3\* ![icon_caroldanvers.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7e05308088d061bd7734ef54abb8f41cf858d704.png) ![iso8big.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4abc05e20d674a3f34f9c92851c181a98e94f040.png) (5000) ![heropointsbig.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/f/fb153ae652d0a3d93d35e89fea53c9e3e264be98.png) (1000) ![token_legendary.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b6ec0cadf56c2c76cadd86c9c39ca119908ab6d8.png) = ![purpleflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/4db842a1a8ad312c1abb5f694ed910d1de3374c7.png) ![icon_redhulk.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/bf02829df886035236e7c20bfe1e9c3a223ac286.png) So no Red Rulk, but it gave me enough power to win in the DDQ today with him at 0/2/2. Next time I gotta save more before cashing in, since this left me with 2 4\* covers I want waiting unclaimed. How many Tokens have you used trying to get both 4\* covers & the Legendary Token. ---
**Author:** ![atomzed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4491bb/32.png) [@atomzed](https://forums.505go.com/u/atomzed)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/2 "2015-12-19T22:36:28Z")
My record was 3 taco to get a 4\* cover. Coincidentally a rulk cover. ---
**Author:** ![avs962](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8797f3/32.png) [@avs962](https://forums.505go.com/u/avs962)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2015, 11:20pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/3 "2015-12-19T23:20:03Z")
> [@atomzed](#): > > My record was 3 taco to get a 4\* cover. Coincidentally a rulk cover. Before I realized that expired vaults refresh to 300/300 after every pull, I used my few stockpiled looking for health packs. One pull have me a red ![icon_thor.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/1/1da7470c667641daa86ea313d4b76223a01cb024.png) 4\*. I was completely okay with it. ![icon_cool.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c06c9a7ed7ebde4a9ded95f738d3086e60ed264b.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Raffoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ba0ec/32.png) [@Raffoon](https://forums.505go.com/u/Raffoon)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 6:46am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/4 "2015-12-20T06:46:10Z")
Here’s a fun fact. In pulling those 90 tokens, you didn’t even double your odds for the red hulk cover that you wanted from 0.33% to 0.66% per pull. You’d need to draw 150 tokens for that. Let’s hear it for the vault! Working as intended! Meaningfully increasing your odds for getting what you want when you don’t pull that item. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif) _Not_ Don’t worry. The devs hear the feedback that we’ve been providing about this feature since before day 1. They just don’t care what we think! ![icon_mrgreen.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/442e459c5ced45cb70e8a05e77e07cea6fee4928.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Polares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Polares](https://forums.505go.com/u/Polares)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2015, 2:41pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/5 "2015-12-20T14:41:58Z")
> [@Raffoon](#): > > Here’s a fun fact. In pulling those 90 tokens, you didn’t even double your odds for the red hulk cover that you wanted from 0.33% to 0.66% per pull. You’d need to draw 150 tokens for that. > > Let’s hear it for the vault! Working as intended! Meaningfully increasing your odds for getting what you want when you don’t pull that item. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif) > _Not_ > > Don’t worry. The devs hear the feedback that we’ve been providing about this feature since before day 1. They just don’t care what we think! ![icon_mrgreen.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/442e459c5ced45cb70e8a05e77e07cea6fee4928.gif) Yeah the tacos vaults are completely useless, I cashed 100 tacos when iceman was featured, and I pulled 0 4s, not one, I pulled 2250 in HP so it was not a total disaster but they are really useless. I have pulled just one 4 out of any taco token in the vault, just one! Far les than in normal tokens. The only use of tacos now is pulling health packs. ---
**Author:** ![TxMoose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/txmoose/32/2777_2.png) [@TxMoose](https://forums.505go.com/u/TxMoose)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/6 "2015-12-21T09:55:19Z")
I used them for 3\* covers but once your 3_s are done, its just for health packs and whatever extras you pull are just bonuses. I think I’ve pulled 2-4_ covers (one 4thor and a kp iirc) and 1 LT throughout all of the ddq vault. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 10:30am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/7 "2015-12-21T10:30:08Z")
Nice pulls there Pwuz. I have only pulled 1 4\* cover ![icon_carnage.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/21f9d7bd5b851e5ff1083085c718da41c81dcd3b.png) from the Vault since DDQ started. Although I have pulled 1000 ![heropointsbig.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/f/fb153ae652d0a3d93d35e89fea53c9e3e264be98.png) a handful of times. I have never pulled the LT yet. Here’s to hoping one day it will come. lol. ---
**Author:** ![whoami24601](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c6cbf5/32.png) [@whoami24601](https://forums.505go.com/u/whoami24601)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 10:38am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/8 "2015-12-21T10:38:09Z")
Saving for 300 tacos. Over halfway there… ---
**Author:** ![hex706f726368](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7993a0/32.png) [@hex706f726368](https://forums.505go.com/u/hex706f726368)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 10:47am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/9 "2015-12-21T10:47:00Z")
I’ve come to view the taco vaults as nothing more than healthpack reserves. This point was hammered home for me after 109 pulls from one vault yield none of the 6 top rewards. The two bobby covers duped me into emptying the coffers. Afterwards, I pretty much felt like I could miss out on the 4\* covers even if I had 300 tokens. ![icon_cry.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/32f6ceaa7d5688cd07af33175e20b625b60d84be.gif) ---
**Author:** ![moogles85](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/moogles85/32/8646_2.png) [@moogles85](https://forums.505go.com/u/moogles85)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/10 "2015-12-21T12:14:54Z")
> [@hex706f726368](#): > > I’ve come to view the taco vaults as nothing more than healthpack reserves. > > This point was hammered home for me after 109 pulls from one vault yield none of the 6 top rewards. The two bobby covers duped me into emptying the coffers. > > Afterwards, I pretty much felt like I could miss out on the 4\* covers even if I had 300 tokens. ![icon_cry.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/32f6ceaa7d5688cd07af33175e20b625b60d84be.gif) I tried to use it as a health pack reserve…took me 35 tacos to get 1 pack of healthpacks. And of course no 4\* covers - just a lot of crappy 2\*s. ---
**Author:** ![OneLastGambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/onelastgambit/32/6467_2.png) [@OneLastGambit](https://forums.505go.com/u/OneLastGambit)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2015, 12:24pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/90-taco-tokens-in-a-search-for-red-rulk/20892/11 "2015-12-21T12:24:38Z")
Out of all my tacos (educated guess) 260 ish - I’ve pulled the LT once and never pulled the 4\* cover. I have pulled that super awesome 2\* cover quite a few times. I think it’s funny that people use it as a healthpack reserve because out of all my pulls I’ve pulled a health pack 3 times. Pulled 1000 HP twice and 10k iso once.