# Anniversary Tokens - Combined Arms and Venom: Heroic

**URL:** <https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059>\
**Category:** MPQ General Discussion\
**Created:** [October 14, 2014, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059 "2014-10-14T15:09:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CrookedKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/crookedknight/32/6437_2.png) [@CrookedKnight](https://forums.505go.com/u/CrookedKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:51pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/21 "2014-10-14T15:51:50Z")

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20?! Holy crap, the sharding luck involved…

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:52pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/22 "2014-10-14T15:52:54Z")

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> [@IceIX](#):
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> These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They’re also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don’t plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.

Will there still be seed teams at the beginning? Otherwise the potential for double ISO seems pretty slim

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**Author:** ![mohio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b4bc9f/32.png) [@mohio](https://forums.505go.com/u/mohio)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/23 "2014-10-14T15:54:27Z")

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> [@IceIX](#):
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> These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They’re also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don’t plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.

Any chance you’re able to say how many will be available? Would be nice to have the full 48 hour slate, but would be more nice just to know and be able to plan for it a little, especially if there aren’t going to be many.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/24 "2014-10-14T15:54:38Z")

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> [@CrookedKnight](#):
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> 20?! Holy crap, the sharding luck involved…

LOL. That’s why I asked about the number of placement rewards. A 20 person bracket with only 1st place reward is going to be BRUTAL! ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif)  
Most likely will be brutal anyway with Anniversary tokens, but either way…

AWESOME!

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**Author:** ![IceIX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/iceix/32/9282_2.png) [@IceIX](https://forums.505go.com/u/IceIX)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:55pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/25 "2014-10-14T15:55:12Z")

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> [@Red Panda](#):
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> > [@IceIX](#):
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> > These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They’re also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don’t plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.
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> Will there still be seed teams at the beginning? Otherwise the potential for double ISO seems pretty slim

Seed teams are pretty well a fact of life in the game as the server has to match you up against _someone_ in the time it takes for people to start entering the Tourney. So yes, expect to see Pyromantic, Batt1eAnge1, and WannaBSkrull hanging around.

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**Author:** ![scottee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@scottee](https://forums.505go.com/u/scottee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:57pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/26 "2014-10-14T15:57:24Z")

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> [@Red Panda](#):
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> > [@IceIX](#):
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> > These next Lightning Rounds will be starting late due to The Goddess showing up for a special reveal before Season VII starts in earnest. They’re also planned to be 20(!) player brackets as well, so don’t plan on bashing yourself against huge leaderboards in each of the rounds that are available.
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> Will there still be seed teams at the beginning? Otherwise the potential for double ISO seems pretty slim

It’s impossible to not have seed teams. Otherwise, the first person to enter would fight… no one.

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**Author:** ![CrookedKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/crookedknight/32/6437_2.png) [@CrookedKnight](https://forums.505go.com/u/CrookedKnight)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/27 "2014-10-14T15:58:00Z")

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> [@Paintsville](#):
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> > [@CrookedKnight](#):
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> > 20?! Holy crap, the sharding luck involved…
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> LOL. That’s why I asked about the number of placement rewards. A 20 person bracket with only 1st place reward is going to be BRUTAL! ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif)  
> Most likely will be brutal anyway with Anniversary tokens, but either way…
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> AWESOME!

But at the same time, with 20 people to a bracket odds are very good you’ll end up in one or two where you’re the big fish.

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**Author:** ![xequalsy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/3ec8ea/32.png) [@xequalsy](https://forums.505go.com/u/xequalsy)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 3:59pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/28 "2014-10-14T15:59:53Z")

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So the cover rewards from Combined Arms were intended to be Rags?

EDIT: Asking from curiosity here, since I don’t have a hope of top 100 anyway.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:00pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/29 "2014-10-14T16:00:34Z")

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> [@CrookedKnight](#):
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> > [@Paintsville](#):
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> > > [@CrookedKnight](#):
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> > > 20?! Holy crap, the sharding luck involved…
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> > LOL. That’s why I asked about the number of placement rewards. A 20 person bracket with only 1st place reward is going to be BRUTAL! ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif)  
> > Most likely will be brutal anyway with Anniversary tokens, but either way…
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> > AWESOME!
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> But at the same time, with 20 people to a bracket odds are very good you’ll end up in one or two where you’re the big fish.

Yay! I am excited about the Anniversary week again. I love it when I am happy.

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**Author:** ![GrumpySmurf1002](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/grumpysmurf1002/32/4688_2.png) [@GrumpySmurf1002](https://forums.505go.com/u/GrumpySmurf1002)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:04pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/30 "2014-10-14T16:04:22Z")

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The current events had 4 total progression tokens that are ‘lost.’ The lightning rounds, just with Anniversary tokens replacing Standards, will offer considerably more than that.  
To interpret this as anything but a win for the player base is ridiculous.

Yes, the big boys are going to get more than the new players, but it’s not really wrong to reward those that have been at this since the beginning a little more than the rest of us.

I’m quite happy with this response. Now about fixing my RNG…

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:08pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/31 "2014-10-14T16:08:41Z")

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It’s pretty strange to me that you’re making up for the lack of anniversary tokens in pve with a pvp event. I’m at a point where I have a chance at placing ok in LRs but this wasn’t the case a couple weeks ago. Anyone in 2\* hell is going to miss out on tokens completely.

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**Author:** ![Xeonic-Ice](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e8c25b/32.png) [@Xeonic-Ice](https://forums.505go.com/u/Xeonic-Ice)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/32 "2014-10-14T16:09:35Z")

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> [@GrumpySmurf1002](#):
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> The current events had 4 total progression tokens that are ‘lost.’ The lightning rounds, just with Anniversary tokens replacing Standards, will offer considerably more than that.  
> To interpret this as anything but a win for the player base is ridiculous.
> 
> Yes, the big boys are going to get more than the new players, but it’s not really wrong to reward those that have been at this since the beginning a little more than the rest of us.
> 
> I’m quite happy with this response. Now about fixing my RNG…

Yes this is huge. I’m on an emotional roller coaster right now. Was super excited all weekend, depressed Sunday night thinking I had no hope of pulling Devil Dino, to ecstatic again.

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**Author:** ![scottee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f9ae1b/32.png) [@scottee](https://forums.505go.com/u/scottee)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/33 "2014-10-14T16:10:41Z")

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> [@ark123](#):
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> It’s pretty strange to me that you’re making up for the lack of anniversary tokens in pve with a pvp event. I’m at a point where I have a chance at placing ok in LRs but this wasn’t a case a couple weeks ago. Anyone in 2\* hell is going to miss out on tokens completely.

Progression rewards. You don’t have to place at all.

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**Author:** ![GrumpySmurf1002](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/grumpysmurf1002/32/4688_2.png) [@GrumpySmurf1002](https://forums.505go.com/u/GrumpySmurf1002)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/34 "2014-10-14T16:14:13Z")

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> [@ark123](#):
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> It’s pretty strange to me that you’re making up for the lack of anniversary tokens in pve with a pvp event. I’m at a point where I have a chance at placing ok in LRs but this wasn’t the case a couple weeks ago. Anyone in 2\* hell is going to miss out on tokens completely.

Depends on the reward structure, in part. However, 20-man brackets means there’s going to be a host of 2\* players that find themselves competing with equal or below players, if luck is on their side.

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**Author:** ![Moral](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@Moral](https://forums.505go.com/u/Moral)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:14pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/35 "2014-10-14T16:14:54Z")

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Everyone gets the freebie Goddess. Nobody gets a 4\* better than everyone else.

Might not be balanced for the transition guys, but it’s more balanced than any event they’ve played in to date.

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**Author:** ![IceIX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/iceix/32/9282_2.png) [@IceIX](https://forums.505go.com/u/IceIX)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:24pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/36 "2014-10-14T16:24:28Z")

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Updated OP with non-final reward structure for the Thor LRs.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/37 "2014-10-14T16:27:49Z")

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> [@scottee](#):
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> > [@ark123](#):
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> > It’s pretty strange to me that you’re making up for the lack of anniversary tokens in pve with a pvp event. I’m at a point where I have a chance at placing ok in LRs but this wasn’t a case a couple weeks ago. Anyone in 2\* hell is going to miss out on tokens completely.
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> Progression rewards. You don’t have to place at all.

really? yeah you just have to score 500 pts nevermind about placing ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/38 "2014-10-14T16:30:22Z")

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> [@IceIX](#):
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> Updated OP with non-final reward structure for the Thor LRs.

Well, 500 points are …

Then again, might be more achievable given the insane competition there will be to get into the top 5, there will probably be more high value targets.

So, um, how much will people be spending on shields in these LRs???

Top 5 out of 20 isn’t bad though, unless you’re stuck with 6 X-Men or the like in your shards.

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**Author:** ![wymtime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/779978/32.png) [@wymtime](https://forums.505go.com/u/wymtime)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/39 "2014-10-14T16:31:17Z")

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> [@IceIX](#):
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> Updated OP with non-final reward structure for the Thor LRs.

Ice any update on when lighting rounds will start? We need our lightning round fix of ISO!!!

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**Author:** ![IceIX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/iceix/32/9282_2.png) [@IceIX](https://forums.505go.com/u/IceIX)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-combined-arms-and-venom-heroic/10059/40 "2014-10-14T16:31:50Z")

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> [@wymtime](#):
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> > [@IceIX](#):
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> > Updated OP with non-final reward structure for the Thor LRs.
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> Ice any update on when lighting rounds will start? We need our lightning round fix of ISO!!!

Also in the OP.

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