# Anniversary tokens have GREATLY REDUCED 4\* odds - not cool! **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 8, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919 "2015-10-08T12:17:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![CrookedKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/crookedknight/32/6437_2.png) [@CrookedKnight](https://forums.505go.com/u/CrookedKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:17pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/1 "2015-10-08T12:17:57Z")
Instead of giving us an extra chance to grab the 4\* covers people who’ve been around for a year so badly need, the odds of getting a non-Devil Dino character of that tier have been _dropped_ by two thirds, down to just .1% for each! Maybe I’m misremembering, but I could have sworn last year’s model featured overall boosted 4\* odds even when you took DD out of the equation and this year that is decidedly not the case. Given that Devil Dino, neat though he is, remains a novelty character and not something useful for actually playing the game that means the anniversary tokens are much much much **worse** than a standard heroic or event token this time around. So much for spending any HP on them. Even the daily deal is overpriced. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:20pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/2 "2015-10-08T12:20:08Z")
I haven’t seen the odds yet, but do you remember if the 3\* odds are increased? I was debating a purchase of HP if so. ---
**Author:** ![CrookedKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/crookedknight/32/6437_2.png) [@CrookedKnight](https://forums.505go.com/u/CrookedKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/3 "2015-10-08T12:23:01Z")
3\* odds are also reduced from the base heroic rates, from .6% per character to .5% per character - presumably to make room for the 600 HP and 3500 ISO prizes that are each categorized as 3\*. Meanwhile the 2\* odds are HIGHER than the base heroics - 5.7% per character as opposed to 5.5%. You heard me, the anniversary tokens come with EXTRA MOONSTONE. Just what everybody wanted! ---
**Author:** ![SuperRecoome](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@SuperRecoome](https://forums.505go.com/u/SuperRecoome)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/4 "2015-10-08T12:23:50Z")
My first pull was 2900 HP, I can’t complain about that lol ---
**Author:** ![rbdragon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/rbdragon/32/4370_2.png) [@rbdragon](https://forums.505go.com/u/rbdragon)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/5 "2015-10-08T12:31:06Z")
They nerfed the anniversary tokens! Galactus eating points! Server issues! Yep…happy anniversary! ![icon_twisted.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7fc2d9cf701d2c2c22729238172e5be83405063f.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Cousin\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ba9def/32.png) [@Cousin\_Simpson](https://forums.505go.com/u/Cousin_Simpson)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/6 "2015-10-08T12:31:56Z")
You know what else is not cool? No Iceman! … geddit? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:40pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/7 "2015-10-08T12:40:40Z")
opened ares moonstone and whatever else in my 2 galactc and anniversary. disappointed I the numbers percent wise. we will see ---
**Author:** ![cyineedsn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@cyineedsn](https://forums.505go.com/u/cyineedsn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:46pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/8 "2015-10-08T12:46:39Z")
I wasn’t around the last anniversary event, what were the token odds like then? ---
**Author:** ![woopie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eb9ed0/32.png) [@woopie](https://forums.505go.com/u/woopie)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:48pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/9 "2015-10-08T12:48:29Z")
Really makes me think about whether it’s worth it to buy the daily deal tokens ---
**Author:** ![DFiPL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dfipl/32/7544_2.png) [@DFiPL](https://forums.505go.com/u/DFiPL)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:51pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/10 "2015-10-08T12:51:40Z")
Got Punisher red from daily deal on mobile, but mobile roster still has a lot of 3\* growth to do. If 4\* odds have been cut that drastically, I’m not sure it’s worth spending the HP I bought for Steam on daily deals. ---
**Author:** ![brisashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/brisashi/32/8381_2.png) [@brisashi](https://forums.505go.com/u/brisashi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/11 "2015-10-08T12:53:00Z")
Honestly why do this? Was the extra 1.5% chance of players getting a 4\* we can use really gonna break the game? ---
**Author:** ![Vhailorx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e79b87/32.png) [@Vhailorx](https://forums.505go.com/u/Vhailorx)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/12 "2015-10-08T12:54:46Z")
I don’t remember what happened with 4\* odds last year in the anniversary tokens, but at the time almost everyone still needed 3_s, and there were only 3 4_s + devil dino in the game. So it was kind of a moot point. But now 4_s are the heart of the “elder game” (as the devs call it). Why are anniversary tokens less useful than regular heroics? And on a larger scale, why do the devs continue to insist on making 4_ covers rare, special snowflakes while simultaneously releasing 4_s just as fast they used to introduce 3_s? It’s getting really irritating. (Even more so when the dev’s response to that particular criticism was to release a list of improved ways to get 4_s that included three items that didn’t actually increase the 4_ acquisition rate because they just subbed legendary tokens for pre-existing covers, and another item that hasn’t yet been introduced into the game or even explained to the player base!) ---
**Author:** ![mindsuckr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bb73d2/32.png) [@mindsuckr](https://forums.505go.com/u/mindsuckr)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:55pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/13 "2015-10-08T12:55:28Z")
Everyone was saying last year had crazy odds on getting Devil Dino. Does anyone remember exactly what they were? Edit: Found on another place. Devil Dino was 15%/15%/10% and Fury/IW were both 2%/2%/2% ---
**Author:** ![CrookedKnight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/crookedknight/32/6437_2.png) [@CrookedKnight](https://forums.505go.com/u/CrookedKnight)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/14 "2015-10-08T12:56:38Z")
> [@cyineedsn](#): > > I wasn’t around the last anniversary event, what were the token odds like then? I don’t have this written down anywhere so it’s all from memory, but I distinctly recall that the chance of a 3\* or 4\* pull was almost 40% combined, which was a HUGE boost compared to the base odds at that point. The tokens had HP, ISO and the dino, but their odds were taken out of the 2\* pool rather than diminishing the chances of the other good stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Wooodd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Wooodd](https://forums.505go.com/u/Wooodd)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/15 "2015-10-08T12:58:10Z")
Whilst I feel your pain in only 80 days in. Lower odds on 4\* I cannot roster yet isn’t such bad news for me. Still seems like a screw you to all you that have been around forever. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/16 "2015-10-08T12:58:51Z")
I did a 10 pack and got Dino and 3 bullseye with 6 tinykitty \*\* Johnny storms ---
**Author:** ![brisashi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/brisashi/32/8381_2.png) [@brisashi](https://forums.505go.com/u/brisashi)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 1:04pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/17 "2015-10-08T13:04:41Z")
On the plus side it looks like I won’t be spending any HP this week. ---
**Author:** ![AnonymousMPQ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@AnonymousMPQ](https://forums.505go.com/u/AnonymousMPQ)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 1:06pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/18 "2015-10-08T13:06:39Z")
They have to reduce the odds because they know all the free tokens they have to give away for all the server issues and such ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 1:08pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/19 "2015-10-08T13:08:36Z")
And I still ask if the 4 ![star.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b0ac875963e8caa4c72aee7b34fbb1369d833ddc.png) odds POOL is smaller then last years, because all the new 4 ![star.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b0ac875963e8caa4c72aee7b34fbb1369d833ddc.png) s are kinda dilluting the percentages a bit. Last year, the only 4\*s to get were ![icon_wolverine.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/6/6c7e5bf3ffb1570ed87e60579343de2d6cc2c99c.png) ![icon_invisiblewoman.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/6/69bad6c1ccb0db28167ea126303cf28b54e9ea76.png) ![icon_nickfury.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/a/aa5cb684a2e63f656fc95341316ff342354ce7d9.png) Now, it’s like… ![icon_antman.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/04efbf925b311f4f8d8631748b90bede9b320efb.png) ![icon_deadpool.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/371d5d9c688873efb4241e8aa6150fd6e8b21943.png) ![icon_elektra.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/425a2e79b97bb586b77a27093305b95c9868d3c9.png) ![icon_jeangrey.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/8/824382550d4a89bb770bd7cc6aad216cbe0eb309.png) ![icon_kingpin.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/80a4b9da0a4bf7b616fae6c89f268b18226a3421.png) ![icon_mrfantastic.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2b4e9fae5fc4ed09498b52a1c42f511ed9aaab01.png) ![icon_nickfury.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/a/aa5cb684a2e63f656fc95341316ff342354ce7d9.png) ![icon_professorx.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/8/8d95ae772f065f7cbcf3f9fe4463c6cca0bafca8.png) ![icon_starlord.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/953ef522f2d738560f834999aa132d43e14fcd51.png) ![icon_wolverine.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/6/6c7e5bf3ffb1570ed87e60579343de2d6cc2c99c.png) ![icon_thor.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/1/1da7470c667641daa86ea313d4b76223a01cb024.png) ![icon_thing.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/32d7419c3725d41168184afaa9ad65ff01d119a2.png) Even if the 4\* drop pool was the same as last year, you’d expect individual percentages to be cut in thirds. What’re the odds like on these tokens, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![SnowcaTT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/snowcatt/32/8299_2.png) [@SnowcaTT](https://forums.505go.com/u/SnowcaTT)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919/20 "2015-10-08T13:13:48Z")
I spent my 50HP today before checking the odds…won’t be making THAT mistake for the rest of the week. [Next page](https://forums.505go.com/t/anniversary-tokens-have-greatly-reduced-4-odds-not-cool/18919.md?page=2)