For each color, what are some reasonable strategies for dealing with an Undergrowth Champion? Without throwing 4-5 cards and 25+ mana at it?
Some potential answers…
White: Suppression Bonds
Blue: Almost any bounce card. Claustrophobia.
Black: ???
Red: ???
Green: ???
Black: Languish, Blightcaster, Demon’s Grasp etc
Red: ignore it and burn opponent asap
Green: use fatties, preferably with reach, to end it in a few turns.
I started playing Roil Spout in Gideon for this guy. It does come back the next turn, but then Gideon should have enough creature strength to cope alright with a 4/4 Undergrowth Champion, its the 9/11 Undergrowth Champions that really cause the problems.
Just keep hitting it. It dies just fine.
Other basic ways to deal with it:
Nerf its power (Jace’s first ability, Tightening Coils, Weight of the Underworld, etc)
Bounce it (Disperse, Harbinger of the Tides, etc)
Disable it (Suppression Bonds, Claustrophobia, etc)
Steal it (Exert Influence, Turn Against, etc)
Set up your own annoying, hard to kill creature loop (Murder Investigation + Knightly Valor, Despoiler of Souls, etc)
Fly over it (anything with flying).
Anyone has any suggestions for how to deal with it as Red?
You can’t kill it easily, but each turn you steal it, it doesn’t block your creatures that turn.
Serpentine Spike, Rolling Thunder, Ghirapur Æther Grid, Desolation Twin, Rouge’s Passage, and the best answer for red is Alchemist’s Vial. Disable, draw a card, then cast a burn spell while it’s ability is disabled.
I thought it was bugged and didn’t get reduced from spells.
I’m pretty sure it was like this in the very beginning. I don’t quite remember since not many people had this when bfz cards launched. Maybe it was quietly fixed. Attempted to be at least.
Undergrowth Champion is unaffected by spells that destroy it outright, like Turn to Frog or Scour from Existence.
I believe that spells that deal it damage will cause it to be reduced by -1/-1. Can someone confirm that?
Last time i checked spells that deal damage reduced his stats.
I faced him a couple times today(first time I met it in QB).
in one of those he managed to buff it with mantle of webs.
Took soooo much effort to kill it.
I hope I will get it soon enough.
I just disabled it and then cast Turn to Frog, opponent got a 1/1 Frog and Champion was unchanged so disabling for that does not work.
Does anyone know if the Turn Against + Fiery Conclusion combo can kill Undergrowth Champion, assuming your opponent has two+ creatures and you steal + sac the champion?
This should not work. Even when you steal it, it retains its ability.
Actually, I am pretty sure that it is affected by spells that destroy it outright (i.e. it will get -1/-1 and negate that destroy effect). I feel that it should not be able to dodge destroy effect given that in MTGPQ (unlike MtG), blocking creatures can effectively block any amount of creatures and attackers can usually only attack with a maximum of three creatures.
This is not to mention that the original version doesn’t actually dodge destroy effects (I know that MTGPQ is different from MTG but I did present the arguments as to why it can be unfair from a balance perspective).
That is the expected behavior, we are curious about the actual behavior. (Y’know, cause it is bugged at the moment.)
I think that is the actual behaviour too. I tried doing that in a QB match (because I didn’t read the card properly the first time) and was (unpleasantly) surprised that all it did was -1/-1.
I hate this new creature. At least weight of the underworld and demon’s grasp cripples this card.
Today I disabled Undergrowth with Ajani’s first ability, and then cast Sheer Drop at it (‘Destroy target creature with Disabled’). Undergrowth Champion was unaffected.
I am not best pleased by this.
Pain in the Deck just,unnecesarily overgrown 