# Are Character re balances returning? **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 20, 2018, 3:34pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020 "2018-08-20T15:34:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![shartattack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@shartattack](https://forums.505go.com/u/shartattack)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/21 "2018-08-21T15:29:27Z")
and gwenpool ---
**Author:** ![The\_rockett](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/the_rockett/32/8925_2.png) [@The\_rockett](https://forums.505go.com/u/The_rockett)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 3:33pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/22 "2018-08-21T15:33:20Z")
Fine. LOL. 5 of them. ---
**Author:** ![abmoraz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d07c76/32.png) [@abmoraz](https://forums.505go.com/u/abmoraz)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 5:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/23 "2018-08-21T17:31:27Z")
> [@Straycat](#): > > I see your point, but its not like they had to postpone a Sandman fix until they figured out Gambit. But they did. If they adjusted Sandman before “fixing” Gambit there would have been riots in the streets. ---
**Author:** ![thedarkphoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@thedarkphoenix](https://forums.505go.com/u/thedarkphoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 6:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/24 "2018-08-21T18:09:56Z")
Yeah truthfully gambit had to be handled 1st ---
**Author:** ![broll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/broll/32/2875_2.png) [@broll](https://forums.505go.com/u/broll)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/25 "2018-08-21T19:03:13Z")
> [@KGB](#): > > I would imagine that any re-works would prioritize 3\* and 4\* characters over 5\* ones like Banner / Wasp. The obvious reason would be that 95% or more of the player base is _not_ in 5\* land and wouldn’t benefit (or care) from any updates to 5\* characters. Oh the other hand buffing some unloved 3 and 4\* characters would go a long way to helping players in those tiers. > > I know the counter argument is going to be the big spenders / whales are in 5\* land and that’s obviously true but those players are chasing new characters, not those already banished to the dilution of classics (with Wasp being the exception for a few more weeks so she literally needs a buff this offseason if it’s ever going to be meaningful). > > KGB While I see this point, if the character is so bad that people don’t want it, it hurts their desire to chase for it, which is what keeps this game going. 1 or 2 is fine, but there’s a critical mass where getting too many useless characters would kill the desire to try for 5\* at all. ---
**Author:** ![Pantera236](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pantera236/32/7285_2.png) [@Pantera236](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pantera236)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 6:46pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/26 "2018-08-22T18:46:09Z")
Nightcrawler and Gwenpool too ---
**Author:** ![KGB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@KGB](https://forums.505go.com/u/KGB)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2018, 10:29pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/27 "2018-08-22T22:29:48Z")
> [@broll](#): > > > [@KGB](#): > > > > I would imagine that any re-works would prioritize 3\* and 4\* characters over 5\* ones like Banner / Wasp. The obvious reason would be that 95% or more of the player base is _not_ in 5\* land and wouldn’t benefit (or care) from any updates to 5\* characters. Oh the other hand buffing some unloved 3 and 4\* characters would go a long way to helping players in those tiers. > > > > I know the counter argument is going to be the big spenders / whales are in 5\* land and that’s obviously true but those players are chasing new characters, not those already banished to the dilution of classics (with Wasp being the exception for a few more weeks so she literally needs a buff this offseason if it’s ever going to be meaningful). > > > > KGB > > While I see this point, if the character is so bad that people don’t want it, it hurts their desire to chase for it, which is what keeps this game going. 1 or 2 is fine, but there’s a critical mass where getting too many useless characters would kill the desire to try for 5\* at all. I agree with what you say. I was just hoping it wasn’t going to take _years_ to re-balance say the 3\* tier. I know forum members would list ad nauseam characters or specific powers on 3\* than needed tweaking but I was more imagining that one of the monthly surveys would ask players to select 5 3\* characters most in need of a buff (ie pick 5 worst 3_s). Then based on the survey those 5 characters would be adjusted (there are endless suggestions over the years so its not like they lack ideas) in one season update. If that buffed the worst 5 characters that should cover the 3_ tier (the bottom 5 are really bad compared to the rest). Then they could so something similar with the 4\* tier only pick 2 per monthly questionaire to buff and repeat that for say 5 months to upgrade the worst 10 4\*. Finally start on the 5\*s, and pick 1 per monthly questionaire to buff. KGB ---
**Author:** ![shartattack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@shartattack](https://forums.505go.com/u/shartattack)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/28 "2018-08-23T13:15:00Z")
> [@Pantera236](#): > > Nightcrawler and Gwenpool too nightcrawler is fine, even better that you know what you’re bamfing. gwenpool is situationally great. not every character needs to be carol. banner and doc ock are so much worse than the rest of the tier. ---
**Author:** ![Kolence](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/kolence/32/6299_2.png) [@Kolence](https://forums.505go.com/u/Kolence)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020/29 "2018-08-23T14:12:25Z")
> [@shartattack](#): > > > [@Pantera236](#): > > > > Nightcrawler and Gwenpool too > > nightcrawler is fine, even better that you know what you’re bamfing. gwenpool is situationally great. not every character needs to be carol. banner and doc ock are so much worse than the rest of the tier. I believe it was about all the ways someone can go airborne. Gwenpool was already mentioned though. 🙂 [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/are-character-re-balances-returning/46020.md?page=1)