# Caltrops Doing Damage After Kishu Downed

**URL:** <https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816>\
**Category:** MPQ Bugs and Technical Issues\
**Created:** [December 31, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816 "2014-12-31T23:27:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![fmftint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/fmftint/32/334_2.png) [@fmftint](https://forums.505go.com/u/fmftint)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816/1 "2014-12-31T23:27:27Z")

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Simulator Basic Hard  
Node 4  
Make a match that takes out the Kinshu, Kinshu displays as “downed”, my team then takes caltrop damage

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**Author:** ![Dayv](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dayv/32/7020_2.png) [@Dayv](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dayv)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 1:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816/2 "2015-01-01T13:31:52Z")

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This can also happen with Daredevil’s trap tile if you make a red match that downs him and includes his trap.

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**Author:** ![Arondite](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9f8e36/32.png) [@Arondite](https://forums.505go.com/u/Arondite)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816/3 "2015-01-01T13:42:56Z")

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It’s happening turns and turns after Kishu is downed, though. I’ve been experiencing the same problem myself. I can down him and can still take caltrops damage turns and turns later.

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [January 1, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816/4 "2015-01-01T16:21:36Z")

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You can still get hit on the turn a Kishu is downed, but they are supposed to be “disarmed” after the Kishu (or any trap user) dies. What you are saying sounds like a bug

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**Author:** ![CprlHicks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9e8a1a/32.png) [@CprlHicks](https://forums.505go.com/u/CprlHicks)\
**Post date:** [January 14, 2016, 2:28pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/caltrops-doing-damage-after-kishu-downed/11816/5 "2016-01-14T14:28:49Z")

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I’ve experienced the same thing in various different matches during the “Enemy of the State” story event. Kishu is downed (sometimes I take caltrop damage in the act of killing him as is supposed to happen), but then I take my next turn, match tiles, and take caltrop damage even though Kishu is already dead.

I don’t remember if the “disarmed” message ever came up or not… ![icon_e_confused.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7ea51214a061662864c1741b8b0231a922406de8.gif)