# Community choice Rebalance **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 19, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858 "2023-10-19T04:19:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Grizwald](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Grizwald](https://forums.505go.com/u/Grizwald)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:43pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/21 "2023-10-19T22:43:36Z")
Could we get all the 5\* rebalanced with updated health and match damage? Leave their powers alone for now. ---
**Author:** ![DyingLegend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dyinglegend/32/4255_2.png) [@DyingLegend](https://forums.505go.com/u/DyingLegend)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 10:46pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/22 "2023-10-19T22:46:28Z")
5 star Dr Strange or Thanos are my vote Both deserve so much better ---
**Author:** ![entrailbucket](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3bc359/32.png) [@entrailbucket](https://forums.505go.com/u/entrailbucket)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/23 "2023-10-19T23:16:41Z")
> [@Grizwald](#): > > Could we get all the 5\* rebalanced with updated health and match damage? Leave their powers alone for now. I asked about this in one of the Q&As and they said they can’t/won’t do it because match damage is related to powers, or something (I didn’t understand the reasoning). ---
**Author:** ![Glockoma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/glockoma/32/6366_2.png) [@Glockoma](https://forums.505go.com/u/Glockoma)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 4:23am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/24 "2023-10-20T04:23:16Z")
> @entrailbucket said: > > > @Grizwald said: > > Could we get all the 5\* rebalanced with updated health and match damage? Leave their powers alone for now. > > I asked about this in one of the Q&As and they said they can’t/won’t do it because match damage is related to powers, or something (I didn’t understand the reasoning). I remember back in the day when they adjusted all characters health and match damage. Wish it would just oblige this way again as well…10 year old game, give one crumb at a time. Either way, good thread so far. ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 11:36am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/25 "2023-10-20T11:36:25Z")
> [@Zalasta](#): > > A lot of assumptions that the community will select a 5 star to rebalance. So many characters are desperate for a rebalance. I hope that the devs increase the rate of rebalances going forward. That said will the casual player base even understand what rebalancing a character entails? Dr. Strange has health that is frankly embarrassing, his yellow power is so over costed and his purple should be immune to Jane so he would be my top pick. Otherwise the 5\* tier needs a top Spidey in my opinion, so either one getting buffed properly would be good. ---
**Author:** ![vaportrail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/3ec8ea/32.png) [@vaportrail](https://forums.505go.com/u/vaportrail)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/26 "2023-10-20T15:17:09Z")
There’s a lot of guys that need updates but I’d like to see 5\* Strange or Old Man Logan made useful again. ---
**Author:** ![Carnifex](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/carnifex/32/5535_2.png) [@Carnifex](https://forums.505go.com/u/Carnifex)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 3:26pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/27 "2023-10-20T15:26:40Z")
Probably in the minority, but I’d love Ultron to become the big bad he deserves to be! Or Goblin, give the villians some love! ---
**Author:** ![fight4thedream](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/fight4thedream/32/8407_2.png) [@fight4thedream](https://forums.505go.com/u/fight4thedream)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 6:01pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/28 "2023-10-20T18:01:25Z")
1. God Emperor Doom: The man saved the multiverse. Show him some love. 2. Odin: I don’t know where to begin. He stands out the most as feeling out of character and grossly underpowered. The fact that they didn’t include Odinsleep speaks to that. 3. Hela: MCU sister to Thor and Loki rains down blades on the battlefield… but in MPQ she creates 4 max for 9AP. Meanwhile you have Chasm spamming the board with Abyss tiles just from making matches. 4. Black Suit Spider-Man: I am still miffed with all these non-OG symbiotes outshining the classics and I will never understand the decision to go with the non-symbiote version of the black suit for MPQ. ---
**Author:** ![Glockoma](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/glockoma/32/6366_2.png) [@Glockoma](https://forums.505go.com/u/Glockoma)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2023, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/29 "2023-10-20T22:53:00Z")
Nice layout @fight4thedream ---
**Author:** ![Timemachinego](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/timemachinego/32/3198_2.png) [@Timemachinego](https://forums.505go.com/u/Timemachinego)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 8:49am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/30 "2023-10-21T08:49:26Z")
> [@Blackstone](#): > > My vote would be for Clint… But only because Hawkeye is my favorite comic book hero, and it would be great to be able to use him more. > But I’ve also got several 1\* Hawkeyes taking up slots in hopes he’ll get a third power, rebalance, and ascension status so I’ll be able to get him as a 5\* if/when it becomes possible… So I might be biased on my vote. > Pre-nerf Gambit might fit in better with the current top characters… That may not be true, but current Gambit could use a boost. > Lastly, I’m currently rewatching Daredevil on Disney+ so he’s on my mind as someone I wouldn’t mind seeing get some attention. If you’re NOT getting use out of HE since Kang has come around then you might need to look at your options again. I’d prefer someone who is almost useful but needs some help along like BSSM, Goblin or DD personally. ---
**Author:** ![Tiger\_Wong](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tiger_wong/32/3264_2.png) [@Tiger\_Wong](https://forums.505go.com/u/Tiger_Wong)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2023, 7:41pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/31 "2023-10-21T19:41:01Z")
- 5\* Black Widow (her passive might as well not exist because you can’t take advantage of it unless you miraculously stun your own characters. All her powers cost 10 or more except purple which only drops to a minimum of 7 with enemy CDs on the field. And the extra “Ifs” on those powers are incredibly obscure.) - 5\* Black Panther (I can make this strange and outdated kit work with Northstar and now 5\* Magneto. But this kit is quite convuluted and much like 5\* BW, the extra condition on his yellow is quite obscure) - 5\* Knull (he’s basically a giant HP meat shield. His black is truly WTF-worthy. Ammortal Coil simply costs too much because by the time you get to use it, one of the other characters are dead. And when only one opposing character is left, it does nothing) - 5\* moon knight (all of his powers cost 10 AP. Come on man) - Odin (other than Abagail, he’s got the worst kit in the tier. It’s so convuluted. And even when it works, it’s not good. Odin’s Blessing is the most convoluted way to do Black Bolts Silent King power with a fortified strike ever) - Black Suit Spider-Man (I contend that if you give him the Phoenix treatment, he’ll be really good) ---
**Author:** ![Pantera236](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pantera236/32/7285_2.png) [@Pantera236](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pantera236)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 2:18am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/32 "2023-10-22T02:18:22Z")
Knull is pretty good if you have him at 550 and he’s boosted. Pair him with apoc to boost all the ticks of damage he’s doing. In fact when apoc is boosted but not knull I’ll still run those 2. ---
**Author:** ![Pantera236](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pantera236/32/7285_2.png) [@Pantera236](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pantera236)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 2:19am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/33 "2023-10-22T02:19:08Z")
Having said that he could still use a pass but I don’t think he should be high on the list. ---
**Author:** ![ThaRoadWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tharoadwarrior/32/23476_2.png) [@ThaRoadWarrior](https://forums.505go.com/u/ThaRoadWarrior)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 10:58am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/34 "2023-10-22T10:58:08Z")
“If he is at 550 and boosted” is perhaps the weakest defense of a character being “fine” that I can think of lol. Knull is just a bag of health points, he needs a rework. ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/35 "2023-10-22T12:37:47Z")
I have somehow stumbled into being able to champ Hela shortly, no idea how it happened or what she does but she would also be a good choice as it is convenient for me! 😀😀 ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 12:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/36 "2023-10-22T12:38:37Z")
> [@ThaRoadWarrior](#): > > “If he is at 550 and boosted” is perhaps the weakest defense of a character being “fine” that I can think of lol. Knull is just a bag of health points, he needs a rework. Like being at 550 isn’t enough, lol! ---
**Author:** ![ThaRoadWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tharoadwarrior/32/23476_2.png) [@ThaRoadWarrior](https://forums.505go.com/u/ThaRoadWarrior)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 6:52pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/37 "2023-10-22T18:52:04Z")
Hela is a cool design that’s a bit undertuned I think. She punishes green in the bank, but not so aggressively it matters, and she pumps up SAPS when you down an enemy, again not so much it matters. She would have been fun against the revive meta with just a few tweaks. ---
**Author:** ![Pantera236](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pantera236/32/7285_2.png) [@Pantera236](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pantera236)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 7:19pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/38 "2023-10-22T19:19:46Z")
> [@ThaRoadWarrior](#): > > “If he is at 550 and boosted” is perhaps the weakest defense of a character being “fine” that I can think of lol. Knull is just a bag of health points, he needs a rework. Lots of people have him at 550 so not sure why that’s such a week defense, also in my next comment I said he could use a rework just not a higher priority than the others. ---
**Author:** ![Bad](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/bad/32/7123_2.png) [@Bad](https://forums.505go.com/u/Bad)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 7:28pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/39 "2023-10-22T19:28:30Z")
There were 2 characters with colossus SW: cyclops and knull. All the people having a maxed knull is only because they thought he was less bad. ---
**Author:** ![Pantera236](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pantera236/32/7285_2.png) [@Pantera236](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pantera236)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2023, 7:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858/40 "2023-10-22T19:38:26Z")
You guys are missing my point. I’ll say it one more time, he needs a rework just not more than a lot of the other ones. [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.505go.com/t/community-choice-rebalance/59858.md?page=3)