# (Discussion) Only Recent 5\*s as essentials so far! Make people spend more or just the most fair way? **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 2, 2017, 11:37am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462 "2017-10-02T11:37:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Punisher5784](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/punisher5784/32/748_2.png) [@Punisher5784](https://forums.505go.com/u/Punisher5784)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/21 "2017-10-02T16:30:07Z")
Perhaps they are gearing up to give us more ways to earn 5\* covers. ---
**Author:** ![CT1888](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e0b2c6/32.png) [@CT1888](https://forums.505go.com/u/CT1888)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/22 "2017-10-02T16:37:56Z")
Is it possible that they have got the latest out of the way, and then they’ll flip to the beginning to have OML and Pheonix lined up for during anniversary / mutant week? Maybe shift silver Surfer round to after them. ---
**Author:** ![RemoDestroyer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3ab097/32.png) [@RemoDestroyer](https://forums.505go.com/u/RemoDestroyer)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:40pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/23 "2017-10-02T16:40:55Z")
It feels as fair as it can be with a 5\* essential node. So far the required 5_s were in tokens with the greatest chance of pulling a 5_. I feel it would have been less fair if a classic 5\* was required and it was only available in classic tokens as they are now. I also don’t feel this totally hurts hoarding. Until hours before webbed wonder started i didn’t have 5\* Daredevil. Minutes before the event started i decided to try and get a cover. I may have beat odds but it took me 5 attempts to get it. Now i can play the 5\* essential and i can resume hoarding. ---
**Author:** ![broll](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/broll/32/2875_2.png) [@broll](https://forums.505go.com/u/broll)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 4:44pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/24 "2017-10-02T16:44:52Z")
> [@RemoDestroyer](#): > > I also don’t feel this totally hurts hoarding. Until hours before webbed wonder started i didn’t have 5\* Daredevil. Minutes before the event started i decided to try and get a cover. I may have beat odds but it took me 5 attempts to get it. Now i can play the 5\* essential and i can resume hoarding. I had similar results. I missed out on 5pidey feature and near the end of sub 1 with no Ock it was looking doubtful I’d hit T100 in SCL7 and would miss out on Rouge. Pulled 10 latest and got 1 5pidey, 2 DD, & 1 Ock. I may have 10 less to pull when I open my hoard before 5pidey leaves, but I also need 3 fewer 5\* covers, so it should balance out. ---
**Author:** ![Starfury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@Starfury](https://forums.505go.com/u/Starfury)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/25 "2017-10-02T17:15:36Z")
The problem with this line of reasoning is you can also pull 50 without getting the 5\* you wanted (“only” a 7.5% chance to happen, but very well possible) And you’ll need 70 pulls to have a 50/50 chance to get any specific classic 5\* (or almost 40 pulls when using BH) ---
**Author:** ![White\_Deth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e19adc/32.png) [@White\_Deth](https://forums.505go.com/u/White_Deth)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/26 "2017-10-02T19:00:25Z")
Im a relatively newer player (1 year) and i have pulled over the course of that time every 5 star bar phoenix and widow crom classics with ghe exception of devil, ock and spidey. Infact i didnt keep most because i need the space for the growing 4 stars after vaulting. I have pulled 2 hulks, 2 bolts, 4 OML, 2 Thanos, 1 spidey, 3 BSS, 3 strange, 3 Hawkguy, 2 Surfer, 3 Cap, 1 Iron Man, 2 Surfer, 1 DD, 1 Ock, 1 Goblin, 1 Panther and 3 SL covers. I kinda regret not keeping some but hp wasnt flowing and i generally juat get pve progress rewards and placement as extras. Obly recently due to the anniversary have i been grinding hp. What that means to say is that unless your really new or just extremely u lucky its engirely possible to pull all of them and i dont have 100s of cp at a time either. ---
**Author:** ![mpqr7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/mpqr7/32/3639_2.png) [@mpqr7](https://forums.505go.com/u/mpqr7)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 7:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/27 "2017-10-02T19:56:41Z")
I’m not crazy about it since I’m a hoarder and don’t have doc oc, Peter or dd, but I’ll pull through somehow. ---
**Author:** ![elvy75](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/elvy75/32/4881_2.png) [@elvy75](https://forums.505go.com/u/elvy75)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/28 "2017-10-02T20:33:06Z")
with xmen teamed anniversary, we should be able to see oml and phx as 5\* required ? These 4 havent been easy for me, as no one has more than 4 covers, i wonder how bad that essential will be with championed 5\* ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Nexus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dragon_nexus/32/6690_2.png) [@Dragon\_Nexus](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dragon_Nexus)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/29 "2017-10-02T22:26:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Personally, I dont feel its fair. I recently opened 1000cp worth of latest tokens in an attempt to get Silver Surfer from the Cosmic Store. I got 4 Starlord’s and that was it. In a system where theres no reliable way to get covers for 5_s, it cant possibly be fair having 5_ nodes. Did the same thing. Not as much CP because I don’t want to burden myself with a 4\* that I’d then need to champ, but I opened a bunch of legendaries and got an OML and a Spider Man. That was it. Soooo…yeah, Daredevil’s the only 5\* I don’t have, so I’m stuffed here. ---
**Author:** ![Spoit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ac91a4/32.png) [@Spoit](https://forums.505go.com/u/Spoit)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 3:46am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/30 "2017-10-03T03:46:49Z")
> [@DAZ0273](#): > > > [@rixmith](#): > > > > With Star Lord they did put up the Cosmic store so the odds of pulling one were as good (or poor) as pulling from latest. If they run a weekly store that features the next 3 required 5\*'s we’d at least have a chance to acquire a cover before they were essential. Without something like that getting a particular Classic 5\* is pretty hopeless. > > If you follow this logically and consider those chosen follow a plan by the devs then it leads to this - The first six 5\* Essentials _should_ be Spider-Man, Daredevil & Doc Ock (3 latest) + Star Lord, Silver Surfer & Thanos (Cosmic store). So next one will probably Green Goblin or something… Nah, going by D3 logic, the required 5\* for the gambit release tourney will be 5\* gambit ---
**Author:** ![Dartmaster01](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dartmaster01/32/2407_2.png) [@Dartmaster01](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dartmaster01)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2017, 3:57am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462/31 "2017-10-03T03:57:52Z")
> [@](#): > > In a system where theres no reliable way to get covers for 5_s, it cant possibly be fair having 5_ nodes. Personally, I can’t agree with this enough. If they are not going to add some way of targeting 5\*s then this node belongs in Deadpool Daily not regular pve. [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/discussion-only-recent-5-s-as-essentials-so-far-make-people-spend-more-or-just-the-most-fair-way/39462.md?page=1)