# Does heroes for hire mean that we should never direct buy. . .

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**Category:** MPQ General Discussion\
**Created:** [May 15, 2017, 1:43am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/does-heroes-for-hire-mean-that-we-should-never-direct-buy/36238 "2017-05-15T01:43:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![Vhailorx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e79b87/32.png) [@Vhailorx](https://forums.505go.com/u/Vhailorx)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/does-heroes-for-hire-mean-that-we-should-never-direct-buy/36238/21 "2017-05-16T17:34:09Z")

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> [@JackTenrec](#):
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> > [@Vhailorx](#):
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> > I am honestly shocked that so many players consider HP to be a dearer resource than cp.
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> This is almost entirely a function of where you are in your roster development. Until you manage to roster everything in the tiers where you’re focusing, HP is a more valuable resource than CP. An LT pull (latest or otherwise) without an available slot might as well be 1000 ISO.
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> HP also tends to be harder to get – anyone can slog through the final node (and if you’re lucky to have it, the 4\* essential) four times to grab a couple CP a day, but you’re only getting HP through farming, resupply, or placement, and you’re not getting placement if your roster is underdeveloped.
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> Until I had rostered all characters (except 1\* and 5\*, obviously), I was perpetually under 1K HP, and never used them on anything except slots. And that didn’t change until I got a few good (unfortunately now-vaulted) 4\* up to 12/13 covers (Thor, Iceman, Rulk) and could start reliably hitting T50 PvE.

No argument from me. HP is clearly a key constraint on new players. It’s been a while since i was struggling to roster everyone, so the current experuence is certainly different from my memory, but from the newer players in my alliance family i gather than HP for roster space is still a bit of an issue without spending.

But HP has become easier to get in tye last 15 months. Champ rewards, clearance levels, and intercepts are a steady supply of HP. And i was able to stay HP positive even before those events if i played steadily and didnt sheild more than once or twice per pvp event.

Certainly my opinion was from the perspective of someone with a completr roster. But on these forums i thought it was safe to assume that most people were vets in that category. If the forum population is turning over into more of a new-player population, then i wonder what that says about the game’s playerbase (if anything). . .

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**Author:** ![deadtaco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/deadtaco/32/2020_2.png) [@deadtaco](https://forums.505go.com/u/deadtaco)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/does-heroes-for-hire-mean-that-we-should-never-direct-buy/36238/22 "2017-05-16T17:59:38Z")

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I am just into the phase where I don’t have anything to spend HP on other than slots with new character releases.

I have one 4\* champ, BH has been BS since I have only ever had 1 4\* BH pull. For me there are only very specific covers I would buy. Quake, because I have always wanted to champ her (need 3 more), non-red Peggys (I am up to 14 red covers so far) and the next Starlord will allow me to champ him. If it lasts until Medusa’s yellow comes around again I will buy that to champ her as well.

I don’t have much else that I feel compelled to buy. Vaulting came just as I was starting to get a nice set of covers for the existing 4\* and now that has been shut off. I don’t get many 4\* from heroics, only when I spend CP or get an LT for one reason or another. So most of the available 12 are not well built except for the ones mentioned above.

I will say that I would buy more if I wasn’t at the craptastic 3600HP price point. That this “blind” price test is still happening is borderline sadistic.

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**Author:** ![MissChinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b487fb/32.png) [@MissChinch](https://forums.505go.com/u/MissChinch)\
**Post date:** [May 16, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/does-heroes-for-hire-mean-that-we-should-never-direct-buy/36238/23 "2017-05-16T18:42:50Z")

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I’m at a similar place as deadtaco in that there aren’t many ways to make HP useful… I stopped at 160 slots, and occasionally throw some more HP into roster slots… don’t yet have any dupe 3\*s, use minimal HP for PvP shielding.

Prior to the HfH store I’d drop 100HP on the daily deal for a vault with a 4\* I needed.

While I think the HfH store is a woefully inadequate alternative for acquiring the retired 4\* that have arisen from the vaulting fiasco, I’m going to take advantage of a cover I need being sold for HP. That said the availability of specific covers is pretty low, each specific cover will take somewhere in the neighborhood of 4-5 months before we see it again.

Another point here is that you can’t use CP to add a champion level to a character, but you can buy one via this store… As the more serious players continue along the path of getting 13 covers for new 4_s before they retire the backlog of 4_s that have less than 13 covers will only ever shrink, limiting your options for using CP to develop 4\*s.

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