# General DDQ Vault Question **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627 "2015-09-25T22:22:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PurdyPrince](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PurdyPrince](https://forums.505go.com/u/PurdyPrince)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 8:50pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/21 "2015-10-01T20:50:18Z")
Has anyone tried pulling from the stockpiled taco tokens vault? For instance, this week it is savory taco vault and the sweet taco vault is stockpiled. Have you gotten the items that it the stockpiled sweet vault shows you on the screen or does it give you random rewards? ---
**Author:** ![ClydeFrog76](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/clydefrog76/32/3075_2.png) [@ClydeFrog76](https://forums.505go.com/u/ClydeFrog76)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2015, 8:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/22 "2015-10-01T20:56:00Z")
If they got rid of the damn health packs I would hate it less. ---
**Author:** ![bobbyfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c5a1d2/32.png) [@bobbyfish](https://forums.505go.com/u/bobbyfish)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 6:13am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/23 "2015-10-02T06:13:56Z")
pulled 2 x 250HP today, just in time for the anniversary. So yeah, for now, I’m happy with the vaults. It’s easy tokens every day with an outside chance of a win, why not? I’ve only pulled on 4\* so far from them, and that was 10k ISO, but I remain hopeful ---
**Author:** ![SnowcaTT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/snowcatt/32/8299_2.png) [@SnowcaTT](https://forums.505go.com/u/SnowcaTT)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 9:04am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/24 "2015-10-02T09:04:54Z")
Hate the DDQ vaults. Really wish they were like the PVP ones, where I could use my tokens once every three months rather than once a year. ![icon_e_sad.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/dec89758d5cdb6af674674dd0ec5ff3d149d9483.gif) ---
**Author:** ![TxMoose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/txmoose/32/2777_2.png) [@TxMoose](https://forums.505go.com/u/TxMoose)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 9:35am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/25 "2015-10-02T09:35:22Z")
I have to admit, I’ve come around on the health pack resource. chasing 1300 (i.e. playing 4\* teams with my puny 3\* teams) and playing pve side by side and throw in a 4\*ddq day, and health pack needs are heavy lately. I am a hoarder and have used tacos for health packs multiple times over the last couple of weeks. it usually only takes a few pulls to get some and sometimes you get other good stuff as well. so I kind of like the current vault mechanic, although I’d love to see the sheer number reduced still ---
**Author:** ![OneLastGambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/onelastgambit/32/6467_2.png) [@OneLastGambit](https://forums.505go.com/u/OneLastGambit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:05am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/26 "2015-10-02T10:05:44Z")
I no longer need any of the 2\* prizes, not interested in health packs since I only do PVP in between my PVE clears. There’s usually at least 2 3\* characters that I don’t need or want, and I’ve got stack loads of ISO since I don’t spend it until I can level all my characters up 10 levels. Today I had 8 tokens and using the handy vault chance guide (here [https://forums.505go.com/discussion/31277](https://forums.505go.com/discussion/31277) ) calculated my odds at getting something I need at 52%, so I Thought what the hell. Those odds aren’t bad and they actually get better the more bad pulls you have. 1st pull ![healthpack.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/ee527d02c0958074c0faad22e4d81243f0b87aa4.png) . odds of desirable item increase. 2nd pull ![healthpack.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/ee527d02c0958074c0faad22e4d81243f0b87aa4.png) . odds increase again 3rd pull ![star.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b0ac875963e8caa4c72aee7b34fbb1369d833ddc.png) ![star.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/b/b0ac875963e8caa4c72aee7b34fbb1369d833ddc.png) odds increase again 4th pull ![imcoin.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0f720e8eae39fb4de00fad0532ad15822999ed5.png) (though I didn’t want this I’m ok with getting it) again odds increase 5th pull ![iso8.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/a8a048333b5a0d795fbd4d5a0c7cbf9618cfe5ef.png) 1500. odds increase again 6th pull MNMags ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) odds increase again 7th pull 2hor ![greenflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0f3ef84cd3319a347285b71b6fb5529f0eef9618.png) odds increase again 8th pull Moonstone ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) So if I started at 52% I wonder what my percentage is at now? I must surely be about 180% likely to pull something I need tomorrow? The lesson here? Never rely on odds. ---
**Author:** ![Ralph-Wiggum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e47c2d/32.png) [@Ralph-Wiggum](https://forums.505go.com/u/Ralph-Wiggum)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:40am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/27 "2015-10-02T10:40:02Z")
I don’t hate the vault, but it clearly would be much better if 1) it lasted longer than 5 days so that your odds could decently improve with time (without having to hoard tokens) or 2) the vault was smaller (80 to 100 possible items, for instance). If one of the goals of the vault was getting people to spend more HP (and thus money) buying tokens, I would think either of those changes would increase those sales. As it is now, it is more or less pointless buying a token or even a 10 pack because your odds of getting any particular item are ridiculously small. ---
**Author:** ![OneLastGambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/onelastgambit/32/6467_2.png) [@OneLastGambit](https://forums.505go.com/u/OneLastGambit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:42am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/28 "2015-10-02T10:42:23Z")
> [@Ralph-Wiggum](#): > > I don’t hate the vault, but it clearly would be much better if 1) it lasted longer than 5 days so that your odds could decently improve with time (without having to hoard tokens) or 2) the vault was smaller (80 to 100 possible items, for instance). If one of the goals of the vault was getting people to spend more HP (and thus money) buying tokens, I would think either of those changes would increase those sales. As it is now, it is more or less pointless buying a token or even a 10 pack because your odds of getting any particular item are ridiculously small. I think a 7 day vault would be better ^^^^ Where is that wild ICEIX when you need it? Any chance of this change occurring? ---
**Author:** ![firethorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/firethorne/32/5398_2.png) [@firethorne](https://forums.505go.com/u/firethorne)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/29 "2015-10-02T10:55:22Z")
Meh. It had the potential to be far better than it actually is. With so many items and so quick resets, they’re essentially just another random token unless you spend half a year stockpiling them. ---
**Author:** ![drcassino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a183cd/32.png) [@drcassino](https://forums.505go.com/u/drcassino)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/30 "2015-10-02T11:41:32Z")
The prevalence of Health Packs is a huge draw. I stockpile until I need to make a big PVP run, then cash out the tokens. Much prefer it to the old system. ---
**Author:** ![IceIX](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/iceix/32/9282_2.png) [@IceIX](https://forums.505go.com/u/IceIX)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:11pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/31 "2015-10-02T14:11:08Z")
> [@OneLastGambit](#): > > I think a 7 day vault would be better ^^^^ > > Where is that wild ICEIX when you need it? Any chance of this change occurring? A wild ICEIX appears! OneLastGambit used Question! It was super effective! Wild ICEIX used Double Action! Wild ICEIX used Answer! Not likely, since we’d then have to switch the Deadpool Dailies up for 7 days, which means (currently) also dropping Crash of the Titans to once a week. Wild ICEIX used Smoke Bomb! Wild ICEIX escaped! OneLastGambit gained 0 exp points. OneLastGambit gained 0 Iso-8. ---
**Author:** ![Malcrof](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/malcrof/32/4328_2.png) [@Malcrof](https://forums.505go.com/u/Malcrof)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/32 "2015-10-02T14:30:04Z")
> [@IceIX](#): > > > [@OneLastGambit](#): > > > > I think a 7 day vault would be better ^^^^ > > > > Where is that wild ICEIX when you need it? Any chance of this change occurring? > > A wild ICEIX appears! > OneLastGambit used Question! It was super effective! > Wild ICEIX used Double Action! > Wild ICEIX used Answer! > Not likely, since we’d then have to switch the Deadpool Dailies up for 7 days, which means (currently) also dropping Crash of the Titans to once a week. > Wild ICEIX used Smoke Bomb! > Wild ICEIX escaped! > > OneLastGambit gained 0 exp points. > OneLastGambit gained 0 Iso-8. Youch, not even the 20 iso consolation prize.. he musta rolled a 20. ---
**Author:** ![OneLastGambit](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/onelastgambit/32/6467_2.png) [@OneLastGambit](https://forums.505go.com/u/OneLastGambit)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/33 "2015-10-02T15:50:13Z")
> [@IceIX](#): > > > [@OneLastGambit](#): > > > > I think a 7 day vault would be better ^^^^ > > > > Where is that wild ICEIX when you need it? Any chance of this change occurring? > > A wild ICEIX appears! > OneLastGambit used Question! It was super effective! > Wild ICEIX used Double Action! > Wild ICEIX used Answer! > Not likely, since we’d then have to switch the Deadpool Dailies up for 7 days, which means (currently) also dropping Crash of the Titans to once a week. > Wild ICEIX used Smoke Bomb! > Wild ICEIX escaped! > > OneLastGambit gained 0 exp points. > OneLastGambit gained 0 Iso-8. I’m not gonna lie… I laughed at this response. ---
**Author:** ![Dystrophy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Dystrophy](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dystrophy)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/34 "2015-10-02T16:15:44Z")
Considering I got 1250 hero points today from two tokens I’d say I’m a huge fan of the DDQ Vault =P However, any other day… well, it’s better than nothing. ---
**Author:** ![BigBZ32](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@BigBZ32](https://forums.505go.com/u/BigBZ32)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2015, 4:30pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627/35 "2015-10-02T16:30:27Z")
I hoard my tokens and use them for health packs. Anything else is just a bonus. [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/general-ddq-vault-question/18627.md?page=1)