# How about 4\* Bagman and what power he should have :) **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ Suggestions and Feedback\ **Created:** [July 1, 2014, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930 "2014-07-01T10:12:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 10:12am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/1 "2014-07-01T10:12:59Z")
I think everyone have him at least i get him 2 times in one day…should he be nerfed in future ![icon_eek.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f373c037cdceba9aec6e47985a653951674b17d.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 10:20am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/2 "2014-07-01T10:20:21Z")
We have a 3\* Bagman. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/3 "2014-07-01T11:47:01Z")
How about “The Power of Useless”, where there’s a bright flash on the screen and all enemies use 1 point? ![icon_mrgreen.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/442e459c5ced45cb70e8a05e77e07cea6fee4928.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 11:59am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/4 "2014-07-01T11:59:37Z")
> [@Rico Dredd](#): > > How about “The Power of Useless”, where there’s a bright flash on the screen and all enemies use 1 point? ![icon_mrgreen.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/442e459c5ced45cb70e8a05e77e07cea6fee4928.gif) That’s awesome power ![icon_e_surprised.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/337e6ecd8290b9a7a21645bcedf0e70d70065bb5.gif) devs must know about this power ![icon_mrgreen.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/4/442e459c5ced45cb70e8a05e77e07cea6fee4928.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/5 "2014-07-01T12:33:52Z")
I think it’d be more ironic if 4-star BagMan actually became the best character in the game. ---
**Author:** ![FaerieMyst](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/faeriemyst/32/8985_2.png) [@FaerieMyst](https://forums.505go.com/u/FaerieMyst)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 1:13pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/6 "2014-07-01T13:13:16Z")
Every day I don’t pull a Bagman is a day of sadness. In D&D, we had a character once that had what was effectively Snarky Remark. It made the opponent so pissed off that they missed their next attack. Now that was useful. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 3:12pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/7 "2014-07-01T15:12:36Z")
Switchy-yay - 3 red (passive) - Kill your own Bagman 4\*\*\*\*…the 2\*\* Bagman comes replace him for 1 turn and die after. Sneaky Bag - 5 black (passive) - Kill your own teamates…Bagman forget to put his glasses on. Web-Monkey - 7 green (passive) - A monkey invade the tile(s) with web on and laugh at you every turn…you can’t move, you’re totally ashamed. Oh and you could pair him with Bagman 2\*\* in the same team… ![icon_e_surprised.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/337e6ecd8290b9a7a21645bcedf0e70d70065bb5.gif) If there was a 4\*\*\*\* Bagman like this, we’ll see a truck load of departures…no doubt ! ![icon_lol.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/df075d9b4a1733c0e2bc1aadb0aa6d547e345497.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 3:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/8 "2014-07-01T15:58:26Z")
> [@fritejay2](#): > > Switchy-yay - 3 red (passive) - Kill your own Bagman 4\*\*\*\*…the 2\*\* Bagman comes replace him for 1 turn and die after. > Sneaky Bag - 5 black (passive) - Kill your own teamates…Bagman forget to put his glasses on. > Web-Monkey - 7 green (passive) - A monkey invade the tile(s) with web on and laugh at you every turn…you can’t move, you’re totally ashamed. > > Oh and you could pair him with Bagman 2\*\* in the same team… ![icon_e_surprised.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/337e6ecd8290b9a7a21645bcedf0e70d70065bb5.gif) > > If there was a 4\*\*\*\* Bagman like this, we’ll see a truck load of departures…no doubt ! ![icon_lol.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/df075d9b4a1733c0e2bc1aadb0aa6d547e345497.gif) Im calling it now…SEASON 4 ALLIANCE REWARDS. mark my words! marc. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 1, 2014, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/9 "2014-07-01T16:25:45Z")
Friendly Neighborhood-Turn all friendly and rival strike and attack tiles into 10 turn countdown tiles that turn into strength 2 defense tiles upon expiring (16 AP) Wall Crawler- Lock the edges of the board in webbing (20 AP) (Unintended FEATURE- Destroys one of your health packs and 500 ISO) Teen Angst- Passive: Your head is not in the game, when you create a critical tile your turn ends ---
**Author:** ![ronin\_san](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@ronin\_san](https://forums.505go.com/u/ronin_san)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 2:47am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/10 "2014-07-02T02:47:18Z")
How about an iron spider, carnage, and proper venom instead. Let’s please close this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Pwuz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@Pwuz](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pwuz)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2014, 8:39am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/11 "2014-07-02T08:39:47Z")
> [@ronin-san](#): > > How about proper venom instead. I take it you mean the Classic Eddie Brock Venom. Though at this point in the story isn’t he “Anti-Venom”? Also a cool character. WHEN they release an Eddie Brock Venom, because he uses the same symbiote Mac Gargan, would they be prevented from being on the same team? ---
**Author:** ![ronin\_san](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/977dab/32.png) [@ronin\_san](https://forums.505go.com/u/ronin_san)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 12:05am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/12 "2014-07-03T00:05:31Z")
Venom is Venom, even if they’re different “versions”. But you could do a Mac Gargan Venom and a Mac Gargan Scorpion on the same team. It’s like Nightwing and Robin. They exist separately, despite that one guy once wore the red and yellow. ---
**Author:** ![Pwuz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@Pwuz](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pwuz)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2014, 2:13am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/13 "2014-07-03T02:13:03Z")
I have to disagree. MacGargan Venom & MacGargan Scorpion should not exist on the same team for the same reason that Patch & Astonishing can’t exist on the same team. It’s the same character either way despite what costume he wears (speaking of which there is an awesome potential for MacGargan as “Ven-orpion” Though Ven-orpion should only be released after Eddie Brock as Anti-Venom. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/0/0328eefce83403cacaed097a2e35581c220616da.webp) The same rational is why both Venom incarnations (or any other bondings of that particular symbiote) should not exist on the same team either. In essence Venom is a team formed between the symbiote and any particular host. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/14 "2014-07-04T13:00:56Z")
Lazy Venom actually sounds tempting. ![icon_e_biggrin.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/9/9da0ce06e62533a4e29efe560c9926ab2566ea47.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 10:21am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/15 "2014-07-05T10:21:33Z")
Even though he existed far beyond Dark Reign, a \*\*\*\* Spider-Man could be Superior Spider-Man. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 4:52pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/16 "2014-07-05T16:52:11Z")
4\* Bag-Man - **X-Force - Green 15 AP** Bag-Man shreds, creating a 3x3 X-shaped pattern of Strike tiles centered on the selected tile’s location. Only transforms basic color tiles. _Level Upgrades_ - **Enraged Slash - Red 15 AP** Bag-Man slashes the enemy, dealing 420 to the current target and shredding the selected tile’s row. _Level Upgrades_ - **Recovery - Yellow 10 AP** Bag-Man starts the process of regeneration. Creates a 5 turn Countdown tile that heals 420 damage, and another 42 for every yellow AP. _Level Upgrades_ ---
**Author:** ![Pwuz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/a587f6/32.png) [@Pwuz](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pwuz)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2014, 10:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-about-4-bagman-and-what-power-he-should-have/7930/17 "2014-07-05T22:23:12Z")
I think you missed X-force’s power upgrade with the new level shift up to 270.