# How often do planeswalkers rotate in the vault **URL:** \ **Category:** MtGPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [October 2, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965 "2016-10-02T01:42:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![erakbgg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/43a26b/32.png) [@erakbgg](https://forums.505go.com/u/erakbgg)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 1:42am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/1 "2016-10-02T01:42:48Z")
Like the subject says–if there’s one I have my eye on, how long will they come around again for purchase via crystals? Are there some that are only available via event win or cash? ---
**Author:** ![bk1234](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/bk1234/32/4502_2.png) [@bk1234](https://forums.505go.com/u/bk1234)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/2 "2016-10-02T12:09:42Z")
I think they rotate on the time and at the pleasure of the devs. I get all of them when they come out, so I’ve never really tracked, but there seems to be no patterns. ---
**Author:** ![yunnnn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a587f6/32.png) [@yunnnn](https://forums.505go.com/u/yunnnn)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 4:34pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/3 "2016-10-02T16:34:41Z")
> [@erakbgg](#): > > Like the subject says–if there’s one I have my eye on, how long will they come around again for purchase via crystals? Are there some that are only available via event win or cash? [https://d3publisherofamerica.zendesk.co … the-Vault-](https://d3publisherofamerica.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/213298183-Which-Planeswalkers-Are-Currently-Available-in-the-Vault-) This should let you plan well in advance. ---
**Author:** ![wink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/df705f/32.png) [@wink](https://forums.505go.com/u/wink)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 8:26pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/4 "2016-10-02T20:26:28Z")
That page just tells when the current ones will rotate out. Is there a page that tells us which new ones are rotating in? ---
**Author:** ![Plastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@Plastic](https://forums.505go.com/u/Plastic)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 9:01pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/5 "2016-10-02T21:01:58Z")
> [@wink](#): > > That page just tells when the current ones will rotate out. Is there a page that tells us which new ones are rotating in? Nope. ---
**Author:** ![Rootbreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Rootbreaker](https://forums.505go.com/u/Rootbreaker)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/6 "2016-10-02T23:37:40Z")
Given that one rotates out each week, you can expect one to rotate in every week to replace it as well. Three weeks after a planeswalker goes on sale for cash, you’ll see it show up in the vault for crystals, but any other week, it’ll probably be one that hasn’t been in the vault for a while. ---
**Author:** ![ZW2007\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/zw2007_1/32/7750_2.png) [@ZW2007\_1](https://forums.505go.com/u/ZW2007_1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:43pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/7 "2016-10-03T16:43:43Z")
Which means we can expect new Jace to rotate into the vault when Ob Nixilis exits. Nihiri and Tezzeret just left recently. I speculate Kiora and Koth to be the next two to come in before Jace 2, in that order; and probably Gideon 2 to come the week after Jace 2. Basing this off of an old post from the devs when they first started rotating the planeswalkers: [https://forums.505go.com/discussion/49264](https://forums.505go.com/discussion/49264) ---
**Author:** ![Morphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Morphis](https://forums.505go.com/u/Morphis)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 4:53pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/8 "2016-10-03T16:53:10Z")
One thing is sure: sarkhan will never get in ![icon_e_sad.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/dec89758d5cdb6af674674dd0ec5ff3d149d9483.gif) Ob nixilis went inside 2 times before sarkhan was seen so I suspect that when a planeswalker that was sold for money(like nahiri and Jace unraveler) enters the vault for crystals, the planeswalker that was meant to get in based on the normal rotation “jumps” a turn. That’s actually a bad way to handle the system. New planeswalkers should just make the rotation shift a position. ---
**Author:** ![ZW2007\_1](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/zw2007_1/32/7750_2.png) [@ZW2007\_1](https://forums.505go.com/u/ZW2007_1)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:02pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/9 "2016-10-03T17:02:13Z")
Oh man I forgot all about Sarkhan. He might actually be the next one we see. ---
**Author:** ![glggwp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a5b964/32.png) [@glggwp](https://forums.505go.com/u/glggwp)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/10 "2016-10-03T17:56:25Z")
sarkhan was sold for about $40… way overpriced ---
**Author:** ![blacklotus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@blacklotus](https://forums.505go.com/u/blacklotus)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/11 "2016-10-04T01:30:58Z")
don’t forget Saheeli. she may be available via crystal purchase soon too. ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Rootbreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Rootbreaker](https://forums.505go.com/u/Rootbreaker)\ **Post date:** [October 4, 2016, 10:10am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/how-often-do-planeswalkers-rotate-in-the-vault/28965/12 "2016-10-04T10:10:59Z")
> [@blacklotus](#): > > don’t forget Saheeli. > > she may be available via crystal purchase soon too. ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif) No telling when though. Maybe not until Kaladesh hits MtgPQ.