So I assume anyone that spends money on this game at one time or another has questioned if the pulls are manipulated, I am a newer player so I don’t know if it’s ever been responded to by devs, I’m sure it’s been posted before, today I was lucky enough to have two LT tokens to pull, I said out loud before I pulled one “I bet it is a green or purple jean grey”, of course it was green because I bought those covers to 5 the other day, next pull, no BS, I called it would be red carnage because that is the only other 4* cover I have 5 of, sure as the sun comes up, that’s what it was, I laughed hysterically, what else could I do?
(I don’t have many 4* with more than two covers/colors)
If I’m mistaken PLEASE enlighten me, because it is very discouraging and makes me feel like I’m being duped by the devs
If this topic has been beaten like a dead horse I am sorry for my ignorance
People think true randomness isn’t actually randomness. So if you think random token pulls aren’t actually random, you’re like most of the population. When they first made CD/MP3 players with a random function, people complained that repeated songs meant it wasn’t truly random. So they now program them to not be random in order to “appear” random to the everyday person.
Found this is a quick google search, but there’s tons of articles that will tell you the same thing:
I long for days of more pure randomness to the tokens. Just the other day I was thinking I’d like to open an LT and get a flock of ducks appearing in game for me.
Or to match a 5 of a kind and have pudding fall to replace the tiles.. mmm pudding
What is random? The actual definition of random is where everything has an equal chance of occurring. This means massive runs have equal chance of occurring to non-sequential runs. ALL things have equal chance of occurring at anytime in a true random system.
What people interpret as random: a non-sequential and non-repeating pattern (yes I know that sounds like an oxymoron).
Is the token pulls random? it seems to be to me.
Is it fair? actually yes. There is nothing more fair to all participants than true randomness as it means everyone has an equal chance of getting something good or bad, nobody has an advantage. Hence why the lottery is so seductive.
Is it desirable? this is where the wiggle room is. For those who benefit from the random system - yes..totally! For those which don’t - Nope it completely sucks.
Regarding the “true random is not possible with computers” argument, it is true to an extent but computers can get random pulls close enough to rolling a dice and such. It’s not done in the same way (obviously) but typically you can expect “random” results.
My only problem with the RNG in this game is that (token pulls especially) seem to happen in lucky “bunches” and then you’re back to pulling garbage for 3 weeks. Ive noticed this pattern for a while (and im not the only one) and we shouldnt be able to see patterns with “random” results. Is D3/DU loading the dice somehow? It’s possible and it can be done both ways, improving or reducing “lucky” pulls.
Your RNG just doesnt feel random and it needs improvements.
i posted this awhile ago (probably not the first person who thought of it by any means) but my idea for tokens, especially legendaries, is to have a ‘wheel of fortune’ type spinner with three prize points. you cash in your token, the wheel spins (these guys love their animations right!). now by default you get the cover that lands in the middle arrow. if you like it, hit accept and away you go on your merry way. if you don’t, or you already have that cover maxed, for a small fee (say 100 hp, 5cp, whatever) you can select one of the covers on the other 2 arrows.
still random. but with a bit of a choice. and the devs get you spending in-game currency too.
Yes, we know what you said about randomness of pulls, but you also said the player who posted legendary token pull results that had a probability of 1 in 687 million was legit. I have a real hard time believing both could be true.
this lucky chap won the lottery twice with the same numbers - odds? 5trillion to one. Is this also a fix?
Unlikely things do happen, unlikely is not impossible.
Perhaps the best and irrefutable instance of something with astronomically long odds of something happening by chance is the creation of earth - odds? 10 to the power of 390/1 (sorry for the wording can’t find a way to write it mathematically)
Now that obviously is not a fix but it is so long that if we run a simulation of it happening again it would never happen again in the whole 13billion year lifespan of the universe.
That’s a really poor analogy from someone who works in analytics. Millions of players play the lottery. We didn’t have millions of people trying to whale up a 5*. It’s shouldn’t be hard to understand that if a dozen people try to whale up a 5*, and one has a 1 in 687 million outcome, this is very different than 1 person out of millions winning the lottery.
