Do you think Masterpieces should always be standard legal? (that they shouldn’t rotate out when their respective set does)
- Yes
- No
- I don’t think I care
Do you think Masterpieces should always be standard legal? (that they shouldn’t rotate out when their respective set does)
They’re super difficult to get ahold of in the first place, it’d be pretty lame to see them go when standard rotates. If they rotate out, I don’t think I’ll ever even attempt a roll.
Masterpieces are not legal in paper Standard, why should they be legal here?
I think this would add a lot of value to them, justifying their masterpiece status.
BTW, I don’t own any, so I don’t have any advantage by this.
That’s what I’m leaning towards as well.
Maybe Origins needs some of its own Masterpieces?
It would be a terrible idea to rotate them out, simply because of how the community works. Simply announcing a nerf on a broken card leads to a flood of refund requests, I can’t imagine what someone who spent $100 to get a masterpiece would do if it was no longer usable. Since I don’t have any, probably won’t ever get many, and don’t play against a ton of them (somehow) I really don’t care, though
I don’t think that could happen. Wizards chooses the masterpieces. I’m not sure D3/hib would find cards to use.
Masterpieces are too powerful and they are rather bought than luckily get. As game is not yet entirely pay 2 win - I’d rather stay as is. ( remember that we are already loosing a lot of counters due to rotation)
oh snap I voted wrong hahahaha
^ masterpieces should only be “legal” in the format they are legal in. That is, while Amonkhet is in the rotation, so are Invocations. They have the Amonkhet set symbol for good reason.
They aren’t legal in paper. They are clearly not intended to be on a power level with Standard cards in paper, either. And JC seems to have adopted that philosophy when converting the cards, too, a lot of them are so powerful that they clearly go against this stated goal of dialing back the power level of newer cards and not having them compete with older, broken cards.
I wonder what his excuse was for setting the power level of Deploy the Gatewatch, Olivia, and Decimator of the Provinces so high? Thopter Spy Network, perhaps?
That would defeat half the point of standard. You need to rotate out the most powerful cards to keep power creep at bay, not restrict design space to have to be concerned with broken combos, and give newer payers a chance to get to the top. Keeping masterpieces in would break all of this.
Should be like they are for paper Magic
Perhaps… We’ve seen D3 play with rarity quite a bit on their own though… And technically I think all masterpieces are not legal in standard unless the original is still legal in paper magic, so even though it’s in-pack, it’s not legal, so D3 is already bending the “standard” rules…

Everything you need to know about Masterpiece Series: Kaladesh Inventions.
How would we be fighting Power Creep if everyone gets to keep their swords or stuff like Dark Ritual? Why introduce “Standard” at all?
Wait… I thought we were voting to just not allow Masterpieces in Standard at all? But we’re just talking about whether they should rotate out as normal??
No, Standard, Descent upon the Sinful is too powerful for you, have Fumigate! btw wrath of god lol.