# More Supports triggering twice \[Fixed in 2.9\] **URL:** \ **Category:** MtGPQ Bugs & Technical Issues\ **Created:** [August 30, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188 "2018-08-30T13:09:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mburn7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/mburn7/32/8216_2.png) [@Mburn7](https://forums.505go.com/u/Mburn7)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 1:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/1 "2018-08-30T13:09:18Z")
Cracked out my old Ally Gideon deck for Oath, and found out that red supports aren’t the only ones with funky triggers. The white retreat (Retreat to Emeria I think) and Oath of Gideon also sometimes trigger multiple times, and in a weird way. Situation: Play Retreat Play Oath of Gideon _Next turn,_ Match 5 white gems (an L in this case, if it matters) Retreat triggers: I get one 1/1 Kor Ally token and my creatures get +1/+1 Oath triggers: I get four 1/1 Kor Alliy tokens I gain mana for the match Retreat triggers: I get one 1/1 Kor Ally token and my creatures get +1/+1 Oath triggers: I get four 1/1 Kor Ally tokens I cast cards The same sequence triggered on match 4-s as well, although not every time. It looked like the extra triggers happen when I make other matches in the same match as the landfall, even if they were just match 3-s (note, I do not mean cascaded match 4 or 5’s, if I get a cascade I get additional triggers since this all happens before a cascade starts) //Edited Title -Brigby ---
**Author:** ![bumstuff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@bumstuff](https://forums.505go.com/u/bumstuff)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2018, 10:00pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/2 "2018-08-30T22:00:23Z")
It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time. One support gem: triggers twice Two support gems: triggers three times Three support gems: triggers four times Etc. If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example. ---
**Author:** ![Mburn7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/mburn7/32/8216_2.png) [@Mburn7](https://forums.505go.com/u/Mburn7)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2018, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/3 "2018-08-31T13:10:40Z")
> [@bumstuff](#): > > It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time. > > One support gem: triggers twice > Two support gems: triggers three times > Three support gems: triggers four times > > Etc. > > If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example. Huh, didn’t think of that. I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/4 "2018-09-02T15:36:29Z")
I recently noticed this reinforced treasure issue triggering more than once. ---
**Author:** ![Laeuftbeidir](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/laeuftbeidir/32/3155_2.png) [@Laeuftbeidir](https://forums.505go.com/u/Laeuftbeidir)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 5:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/5 "2018-09-02T17:54:50Z")
I’ve got several Screenshots when three of my treasures all went on black gems, got reinforced two times and lined up. That took a while to resolve! ---
**Author:** ![Matthew](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/matthew/32/3927_2.png) [@Matthew](https://forums.505go.com/u/Matthew)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2018, 11:59pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/6 "2018-09-02T23:59:37Z")
Choke is also doing this. I noticed it while working on Mastery points. ---
**Author:** ![techmarine5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@techmarine5](https://forums.505go.com/u/techmarine5)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2018, 10:45pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/7 "2018-09-03T22:45:04Z")
> [@Mburn7](#): > > > [@bumstuff](#): > > > > It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time. > > > > One support gem: triggers twice > > Two support gems: triggers three times > > Three support gems: triggers four times > > > > Etc. > > > > If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example. > > Huh, didn’t think of that. I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched Treasures always gave Mana every time they were matched. It could be that we are just now seeing the ramifications of that change from just can’t be rienforced. ---
**Author:** ![Mburn7](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/mburn7/32/8216_2.png) [@Mburn7](https://forums.505go.com/u/Mburn7)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/8 "2018-09-04T12:39:53Z")
> [@techmarine5](#): > > > [@Mburn7](#): > > > > > [@bumstuff](#): > > > > > > It happens any time something is looking for a match of gems and the match includes a support gem. For every support gem included in the match, the ability triggers an extra time. > > > > > > One support gem: triggers twice > > > Two support gems: triggers three times > > > Three support gems: triggers four times > > > > > > Etc. > > > > > > If you really want some fun, match 3 support gems together with an ability looking for that kind of match. Storm the Vault and Part the Waterveil can have you waiting days for your Islands to stop getting spawned, for example. > > > > Huh, didn’t think of that. I wonder if that is also why Treasures now give their mana for each time they are reinforced when matched > > Treasures always gave Mana every time they were matched. It could be that we are just now seeing the ramifications of that change from just can’t be rienforced. I think you misunderstood me. Treasures should only give 2 or 3 mana per match. Instead, they now give 2 or 3 mana **per reinforcement** per match. So if I have a treasure reinforced 5 times, I get 15 mana from one match. That is obviously a bug ---
**Author:** ![techmarine5](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c77e96/32.png) [@techmarine5](https://forums.505go.com/u/techmarine5)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2018, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/9 "2018-09-08T08:03:55Z")
I agree. Thank you for the clarification. ---
**Author:** ![Tremayne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tremayne/32/8222_2.png) [@Tremayne](https://forums.505go.com/u/Tremayne)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/more-supports-triggering-twice-fixed-in-2-9/46188/10 "2018-09-26T16:31:29Z")
I think that Koth’s strength of the mountain ability suffers from this. I had a match earlier today where my creatures grew big very fast. I couldn’t figure out why SotM triggered so often. Will see if I can test it some more. update - seems consistent with the theory that supports in the match make SotM trigger multiple times. This could make Koth very strong until fixed.