# New Year - New 4\* Captain Marvel! **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [January 3, 2017, 3:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997 "2017-01-03T15:36:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![GrumpySmurf1002](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/grumpysmurf1002/32/4688_2.png) [@GrumpySmurf1002](https://forums.505go.com/u/GrumpySmurf1002)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/21 "2017-01-03T16:16:02Z")
> [@irwando](#): > > They ask us who we want to see and give us more variants. It won’t make you feel any better, but she was in the works well before the latest character survey. ---
**Author:** ![firethorne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/firethorne/32/5398_2.png) [@firethorne](https://forums.505go.com/u/firethorne)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:16pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/22 "2017-01-03T16:16:36Z")
> Josh Austin: If you are unable to find an Iron Man version to fight with, we are working on one that may actually work well with her in future that we can’t reveal yet. So, no Sabertooth, Gambit, Rogue, Nightcrawler, Cable, Bishop, Kitty Pryde, Apocalypse, Onslaught. **Edit for Skrimgeour: and Dazzler** And even if we’re going to say Fox licenses are off limits and stick to Disney’s MCU, we still have no Red Skull, Arnim Zola, Jessica Jones, Killgrave, Diamondback, Yellowjacket, Whiplash, Mandarin, Iron Monger, Killian, Lash, Agent Coulson, Deathlok, Ronan, Agent 13, Mockingbird. And a third Cap Marvel and fifth Iron Man is the new hotness that we’re supposed to get excited about? A new Iron Man that will probably rely heavily on countdowns at that? ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif) ---
**Author:** ![TxMoose](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/txmoose/32/2777_2.png) [@TxMoose](https://forums.505go.com/u/TxMoose)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/23 "2017-01-03T16:18:11Z")
> [@mega ghost](#): > > Also, RE: 4\* Carol, do we have many black/yellow/green characters? Especially where the green is passive? That should fit in nicely on many 4-star teams. black yellow green - xfw, 4venom, storms, and bolt. none are green passives. active black yellow with 3rd passive include hood, wasp, cage ---
**Author:** ![Skrimgeour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b782af/32.png) [@Skrimgeour](https://forums.505go.com/u/Skrimgeour)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:18pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/24 "2017-01-03T16:18:26Z")
and Dazzler darnit. Dazzler!! Dazzler, Herald of Galactus. ---
**Author:** ![Straycat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/straycat/32/5888_2.png) [@Straycat](https://forums.505go.com/u/Straycat)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:19pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/25 "2017-01-03T16:19:34Z")
I like the character, I put her new look down as the variant I wanted in the surveys. Still early but she seems like a pretty nice support character. Cheap powers, a countdown that creates strike tiles and does good damage when it expires. You could force it to 0 for 5 yellow, also improve existing tiles when any countdown tile goes off. Passive that generates ap based on enemy matches. Seems fun and useful. Surprised its not timed around the movie, but that is still a couple years away, I’m glad we won’t have to wait. Also said a new feature will be added. Sounds like it should be a big deal, they said it would make everyone happy ---
**Author:** ![Handoftheking26](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b77776/32.png) [@Handoftheking26](https://forums.505go.com/u/Handoftheking26)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:22pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/26 "2017-01-03T16:22:40Z")
So another CM and it ISN’T Captain Mar-vel…the original nemesis of Thanos…not sure what they were thinking? And another Iron Man??? Please no… ---
**Author:** ![mega\_ghost](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/mega_ghost/32/2191_2.png) [@mega\_ghost](https://forums.505go.com/u/mega_ghost)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/27 "2017-01-03T16:25:32Z")
> [@TxMoose](#): > > > [@mega ghost](#): > > > > Also, RE: 4\* Carol, do we have many black/yellow/green characters? Especially where the green is passive? That should fit in nicely on many 4-star teams. > > black yellow green - xfw, 4venom, storms, and bolt. none are green passives. > > active black yellow with 3rd passive include hood, wasp, cage I should have been more specific, I meant specifically in 4\*-land. I completely blanked on XFW and Venom. That said, unless they get rebalanced neither are particularly valuable teammates. XFW is only ever really useful when he’s boosted. ---
**Author:** ![zodiac339](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/zodiac339/32/2442_2.png) [@zodiac339](https://forums.505go.com/u/zodiac339)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:29pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/28 "2017-01-03T16:29:37Z")
> [@DFiPL](#): > > Black/Yellow/Green is not a color combination I expected from Captain Marvel. > > Not sure how I feel yet about Energy Manipulation. If she’s only generating AP when the enemy matches its strongest color, it may sit fallow for long stretches. Yeah, would have expected Blue instead of Green. Is Mr. Fantastic the only ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) Legendary? I think he is. Would have been a nice spot for her, opposite from Rulk or X-23 if you’re making a rainbow pair. ---
**Author:** ![TheWerebison](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheWerebison](https://forums.505go.com/u/TheWerebison)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:35pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/29 "2017-01-03T16:35:21Z")
Am I the only one looking at the image of her pointing her finger in the air with her mouth open and thinking: “OBJECTION!!!” The spiky hair doesn’t help, either. XD ---
**Author:** ![Shinigami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Shinigami](https://forums.505go.com/u/Shinigami)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/30 "2017-01-03T16:37:33Z")
> [@zodiac339](#): > > > [@DFiPL](#): > > > > Is Mr. Fantastic the only ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) > > ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) > > ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) > > Legendary? I think he is. Wasp has that colour combo ---
**Author:** ![Mr\_Sinister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Mr\_Sinister](https://forums.505go.com/u/Mr_Sinister)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/31 "2017-01-03T16:38:46Z")
> [@Shinigami](#): > > > [@zodiac339](#): > > > > > [@DFiPL](#): > > > > > > Is Mr. Fantastic the only ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) > > > ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) > > > ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) > > > Legendary? I think he is. > > Wasp has that colour combo Who?? ---
**Author:** ![CyberVenom2001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/eada6e/32.png) [@CyberVenom2001](https://forums.505go.com/u/CyberVenom2001)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:39pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/32 "2017-01-03T16:39:25Z")
I’m psyched for this Danvers! I’m hoping the Iron Man variant they are working on is Ironheart! ---
**Author:** ![zodiac339](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/zodiac339/32/2442_2.png) [@zodiac339](https://forums.505go.com/u/zodiac339)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 4:55pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/33 "2017-01-03T16:55:39Z")
> [@Shinigami](#): > > > [@zodiac339](#): > > > > > [@DFiPL](#): > > > > > > Is Mr. Fantastic the only ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) > > > ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) > > > ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) > > > Legendary? I think he is. > > Wasp has that colour combo Ah, thank you for reminding me. So yeah, ![blackflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/3/31cca2670abed6b73f92e27fdf7241131ebbf8a3.png) ![yellowflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/c/c88cd082407902cbaddb8a612c651630df8a50d7.png) ![blueflag.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/2/2f915716cfab9f2eeb1d028e797cff99b86c70fc.png) would be a better spot for her. Unless Mr. F comes up with a good rebalance soon. Perhaps his heal could work regardless of who matches like Medusa? ---
**Author:** ![Orion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/orion/32/4322_2.png) [@Orion](https://forums.505go.com/u/Orion)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/34 "2017-01-03T17:36:29Z")
“We are also working on our process to more general testing is getting done and we also want to facilitate more community requests. Sorry we can’t be too specific until we lock something down…” Bwahahahahahahahahahahaha! More testing, riiiiiiiiiiight. Except for R117 of course. And probably every other update after that. ---
**Author:** ![Pongie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pongie/32/5245_2.png) [@Pongie](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pongie)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 5:52pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/35 "2017-01-03T17:52:42Z")
> [@mega ghost](#): > > I never even bothered champing her 3-star version, although I was considering doing it soon for the Peggy champ rewards… or will those now be reassigned to 4-star Carol I just hit the first Peggy cover from the champion reward. It will be a while before I hit the next so if it does change, no big deal. Probably won’t even have the 4\* championed by then so either cover will be useful ---
**Author:** ![DFiPL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dfipl/32/7544_2.png) [@DFiPL](https://forums.505go.com/u/DFiPL)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:18pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/36 "2017-01-03T18:18:52Z")
> [@mega ghost](#): > > While I’m typically not thrilled with variants, it will be nice to finally have a Carol Danvers that I actually want to put on a team. I never even bothered champing her 3-star version, although I was considering doing it soon for the Peggy champ rewards… or will those now be reassigned to 4-star Carol? See, logically, 3\* would feed 4\*. But I have a feeling everything would burn if they removed Peggy’s Champion feeder right before folks started getting her yellow at 223. ---
**Author:** ![Nepenthe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/nepenthe/32/4829_2.png) [@Nepenthe](https://forums.505go.com/u/Nepenthe)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 6:57pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/37 "2017-01-03T18:57:52Z")
> [@Alfje17](#): > > > [@BigRussian](#): > > > > We are also working on our process to more general testing is getting done > > Yep, looks like a lot of testing went into R117 ![icon_twisted.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7fc2d9cf701d2c2c22729238172e5be83405063f.gif) ANY testing would probably qualify as “more” testing at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Crowl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Crowl](https://forums.505go.com/u/Crowl)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:20pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/38 "2017-01-03T19:20:47Z")
> [@Alfje17](#): > > > [@BigRussian](#): > > > > We are also working on our process to more general testing is getting done > > Yep, looks like a lot of testing went into R117 ![icon_twisted.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7fc2d9cf701d2c2c22729238172e5be83405063f.gif) They have a cunning plan, they are treating R117 as a baseline, so any subsequent release is bound to have more testing done on it. ![icon_rolleyes.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/d0df41dbdf52fd8348c2c853bcc6c8f44e9c77b3.gif) ---
**Author:** ![Crowl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Crowl](https://forums.505go.com/u/Crowl)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/39 "2017-01-03T19:23:26Z")
> [@GrumpySmurf1002](#): > > > [@irwando](#): > > > > They ask us who we want to see and give us more variants. > > It won’t make you feel any better, but she was in the works well before the latest character survey. They do seem to be rather random with some of these recent releases, you would think that both yet another variant of her or the recent Thanos release would have made more sense nearer to a movie where they featured or at the very least near a new Marvel movie release. ---
**Author:** ![Jaedenkaal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jaedenkaal/32/5011_2.png) [@Jaedenkaal](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jaedenkaal)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997/40 "2017-01-03T19:43:26Z")
X-Force and Venom, currently. None with a passive Green. Green passives are pretty rare in general. [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997.md?page=1) [Next page](https://forums.505go.com/t/new-year-new-4-captain-marvel/31997.md?page=3)