# No Clearance Levels in Heroic Juggernaut... **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [September 25, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646 "2016-09-25T12:04:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quebbster](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/quebbster/32/5681_2.png) [@Quebbster](https://forums.505go.com/u/Quebbster)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:04pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/1 "2016-09-25T12:04:43Z")
Guess a Cage progression cover would have been too much to hope for… Is this going to be the standard for new releases? No Clearance Levels for a week in PvE? ---
**Author:** ![fmftint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/fmftint/32/334_2.png) [@fmftint](https://forums.505go.com/u/fmftint)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:08pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/2 "2016-09-25T12:08:39Z")
I was just coming to post the same… Can’t have peolpe earn a new release simply through progression, can we ---
**Author:** ![Joshe67](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/90ced4/32.png) [@Joshe67](https://forums.505go.com/u/Joshe67)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/3 "2016-09-25T12:09:50Z")
Nice of them to implement a new system that most people really like and then just stop using it in two weeks. Ffs. ---
**Author:** ![Pessi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/pessi/32/3101_2.png) [@Pessi](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pessi)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/4 "2016-09-25T12:11:15Z")
Big shame. What a waste. ---
**Author:** ![Merrick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/58956e/32.png) [@Merrick](https://forums.505go.com/u/Merrick)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:14pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/5 "2016-09-25T12:14:50Z")
Hopefully this is a glitch and will be quickly fixed. Otherwise it’s just awful. ---
**Author:** ![Wjohnson992](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f1d935/32.png) [@Wjohnson992](https://forums.505go.com/u/Wjohnson992)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:18pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/6 "2016-09-25T12:18:24Z")
Well now I’m delighted I wont be missing any good rewards by skipping it. ---
**Author:** ![We\_are\_Venom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@We\_are\_Venom](https://forums.505go.com/u/We_are_Venom)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:43pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/7 "2016-09-25T12:43:56Z")
Yeah but TAH is now mediocre and the 4\* placement reward so its all good. ---
**Author:** ![Daiches](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daiches/32/5515_2.png) [@Daiches](https://forums.505go.com/u/Daiches)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 12:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/8 "2016-09-25T12:56:53Z")
Can’t give away a free 4star cover. Don’t you know those are the end goal in this game? ---
**Author:** ![Polares](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Polares](https://forums.505go.com/u/Polares)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 1:27pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/9 "2016-09-25T13:27:14Z")
> [@Quebbster](#): > > Guess a Cage progression cover would have been too much to hope for… > Is this going to be the standard for new releases? No Clearance Levels for a week in PvE? Yeah I was thinking the same. I dont think it would hurt Devs at all to give one cover ‘for free’ ---
**Author:** ![slidecage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/898d66/32.png) [@slidecage](https://forums.505go.com/u/slidecage)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 1:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/10 "2016-09-25T13:37:32Z")
wow just plain wow they cant even run a simple game hell i say they pull the entire new system down all together since its pushing people in wrong brackets ---
**Author:** ![thisone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@thisone](https://forums.505go.com/u/thisone)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/11 "2016-09-25T13:42:17Z")
Well I knew they wouldn’t give cage as progression, but assumed we’d just get reed as he got skipped. Come on devs; I understand not giving out the new 4\* but at least give us our clearance event with the 4\* that gets skipped on new events. Too late now but going forward. You know it makes sense ![icon_e_smile.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/67bb473b5611f3e55d45572294b1a2a498a74c04.gif) ---
**Author:** ![JHawkInc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jhawkinc/32/4863_2.png) [@JHawkInc](https://forums.505go.com/u/JHawkInc)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/12 "2016-09-25T13:45:36Z")
I’m not mad, just disappointed. We were happy with the new SCL program (thrilled, even, let’s face it, it’s a fantastic improvement). It went away for Meet Rocket & Groot, and most I spoke to weren’t ecstatic, but rationalized it as “let’s do more regular SCL events to work out the kinks before we try to tie SCL to a release event.” At the very least, it was communicated to us in advance, with some other tweaks/changes to improve progression rates, so we were cool with it. Then, flip that on the head, no SCL for the following event (there goes that 4\* Luke Cage cover from progression that all the SCL7 players were excited for), no communication in advance, no explanation. At this point I’ve seen equal amounts of anger that the devs are being so stingy with new characters, and assumptions that someone simply forgot to flip the switch to turn SCL back on before leaving the office on Friday. Because, let’s face it, that kind of thing has happened plenty of times before (no boosted characters at the start of an event, alliance rewards being borked for a sub event, dropping from 25 to 15 CP in PVP recently, that one Gauntlet way back when that scaled nightmarishly and had to be adjusted halfway through? etc). All the good will earned by things like SCL (and tweaks to weak characters and better communication and actually listening to player complaints and lots of other positive things that have been done recently) goes out the window when we get a “typical” problem like this Heroic Juggernaut. I mean, let’s be real. It’s clearly not doing what the players expected (and the expectations were completely reasonable), and we can’t even tell if it’s a mistake that will be fixed before the event goes live, or if it’s a poor decision that was then poorly communicated to the players, because the two are both common enough we can’t tell them apart. ---
**Author:** ![RoboDuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/7ea924/32.png) [@RoboDuck](https://forums.505go.com/u/RoboDuck)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/13 "2016-09-25T14:15:13Z")
So are Clearence levels going to be a part time thing only? That would’ve been nice to know. ---
**Author:** ![ZekeBarrett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7993a0/32.png) [@ZekeBarrett](https://forums.505go.com/u/ZekeBarrett)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:20pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/14 "2016-09-25T14:20:26Z")
Hey, we’re introducing this great thing called Clearance Levels, but then taking away cupcakes, and now taking away Clearance Levels. Lol ---
**Author:** ![Punisher5784](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/punisher5784/32/748_2.png) [@Punisher5784](https://forums.505go.com/u/Punisher5784)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/15 "2016-09-25T14:30:40Z")
> [@Quebbster](#): > > Guess a Cage progression cover would have been too much to hope for… > Is this going to be the standard for new releases? No Clearance Levels for a week in PvE? Guess they don’t want to sell roster slots… I’ll never understand this. Give us the freaking cover. We can’t do anything with 1 cover anyway and everyone will need to buy a roster slot cause acquiring 1000 HP is not easy with a new release every other week. This is disappointing. ---
**Author:** ![Dragon\_Nexus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dragon_nexus/32/6690_2.png) [@Dragon\_Nexus](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dragon_Nexus)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 3:07pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/16 "2016-09-25T15:07:19Z")
Hoping this is a mistake, tbh. I mean, I understood why they removed clearance for R&G since that’s a new release and they might have just wanted to keep things as they were for the important stuff while they works things out. But for Juggernaut? I don’t get it. If the reason is “We didn’t want to give a cover for a new character for free so soon” I don’t buy it. I mean, you’d need to play for several days of the event to get the progression reward of a free 4\* cover and even then not everyone would be able to get it anyway unless they went CL 7. So…either this is a whoopsie, in which case I’ll just wait and see…or this is deliberate, in which case WTF? ---
**Author:** ![Jabrony\_Geoff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/db5fbb/32.png) [@Jabrony\_Geoff](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jabrony_Geoff)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 3:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/17 "2016-09-25T15:09:23Z")
This has to be a mistake, it was mentioned that it would be removed for the Rocket and Groot event only. ---
**Author:** ![Linkster79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b5a626/32.png) [@Linkster79](https://forums.505go.com/u/Linkster79)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 3:17pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/18 "2016-09-25T15:17:07Z")
Folk please remember that trolling, or posting something to provoke a reaction is against the forum rules, as is flaming, insulting or bashing others including the developers. Saying that trying to correct the behaviour of others by reminding them of the forum rules is also against the forum rules, so not only do I have to report others but also report myself by posting this. Please keep all criticism and feedback constructive and positive. ---
**Author:** ![Dwarfsteel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Dwarfsteel](https://forums.505go.com/u/Dwarfsteel)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 3:21pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/19 "2016-09-25T15:21:31Z")
So no one thinks maybe they’re tweaking things, analyzing results of the last events, reviewing player feed back, etc so that they can make improvements? People actually think they’d remove the feature entirely? One event (well two if you count the release event) and the default reaction is outrage? Understood. Carry on… ---
**Author:** ![GurlBYE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/gurlbye/32/3585_2.png) [@GurlBYE](https://forums.505go.com/u/GurlBYE)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2016, 3:24pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646/20 "2016-09-25T15:24:28Z")
> [@Joshe67](#): > > Nice of them to implement a new system that most people really like and then just stop using it in two weeks. Ffs. They don’t want us to have a single cover of the new 4 star without competition lol. Same crap different day. [Next page](https://forums.505go.com/t/no-clearance-levels-in-heroic-juggernaut/28646.md?page=2)