PVE Heroic: Juggernaut (2016-01-18 to 2016-01-21)

[rainkingucd]

Event Info

[spoiler]Heroic Juggernaut
Length of Event: 3 days
Sub-Events? Yes
Number of Sub-Events: 3 Length of Sub-Events: 24 hours
Main Bracket Size: 1000 Sub Bracket Size: 1000
Unique Reward(s): None
Other Notes:

• There are Main nodes to open up the sub-events. These nodes are one time only nodes.
• One node in Main (a team-up node) is repeatable and playable for points throughout the event.
• Enemy Types (Main): Juggernaut, Venom, Yelena Belova, Bullseye (2*), Daken (2*), Moonstone, Hammer Goons
• Sub-Event 1: Can’t Stop
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 5
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 9 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable)
  • Enemy Types: Venom, Doctor Octopus, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons
• Sub-Event 2: Won’t Stop
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 4
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 9 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable)
  • Enemy Types: Bullseye (2*), Kingpin, Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons, Hand Goons
• Sub-Event 3: Don’t Stop
  • Number of Main Nodes to Open Sub-Event: 4
  • Sub-Event Nodes: 11 Total. 6 Regular (repeatable); 3 Essential (repeatable); 2 One-Time Only
  • Enemy Types: Juggernaut, Daken (2*), Magneto (3*) Hammer Goons, Maggia Goons, ISO-8 Goons

Link to mags1587 PVE Format Guide[/spoiler]

Powered Up (and only usable characters)

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(Essential)

(new)

(Essential)

(Essential)

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Progression awards:

[spoiler]100:

500: 100
1000: rainbow damage boost
1500:

2300: rainbow AP stockpile
3400: 140
4700:

6000: 140
7500:

9500: 140
11500:

13500: 250
15500: 25
17500: 250
20000:

23000: 500
27500: 25

32000:

37500: 1000

43000:
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Placement rewards:

[spoiler]1-2:

• rewards for 2-5
  2-5:
  
• rewards for 6-10
  6-10:
  
• rewards for 11-20
  11-20:
  
  
  
  , 1500
  , 50

21-50:



, 1000
, 50
51-100:


, 1000
, 25
101-200:

, 500
, 25
201-300:

, 500
301-400:

, 250
401-500:
x 3, 250
501-600:
x 2, 250
601-800:
, 250
801-1000: 250

Alliance rewards:
1-2:

, 2500
, 100
3-10:

, 2500
, 50
11-25:

, 1500
, 50
26-50:

, 1000
, 50
51-100:

, 500
, 25
101-250: 500
, 25
251-500: 250
, 25
501-1000: 250
1001-10000: 140
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Sub-Event Placement Rewards

[spoiler]1-2:
x2, 1000
, 100
, 2

3-10:
, 1000
, 100
, 1

11-50:
, 1000
, 50
51-100:
, 1000
101-200:
, 500
201-300:
, 250
301-400:
, 250
401-500:
x3, 250
5ß1-600:
x2, 250
601-800:
, 250
801-900: 140
901-1000: 70

Alliance
1-10:
, 250
11-50:
, 100
51-100:
, 100
101-250:
,70
251-1000:
x3, 70
1001-2000:
x2, 70
2001-5000:
, 70
5001-10000:
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Reinforcements (will update as known)

[spoiler]Sub 1: Can’t Stop

Sub 2: Won’t Stop

Sub 3: Don’t Stop

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Previous runs
PvE Heroic Juggernaut: November 16th - November 19th, 2015
PVE: Juggernaut: Heroic
Juggernaut: Heroic June 1 - June 4
Heroic: Juggernaut Nov 6 - 9
JUGGERNAUt HEROIC! Sep 12 - Sep 15
Juggernaut Heroic (June 23 to Jule 25)
Heroic Mode Juggernaut is up!

[TxMoose]

can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I’m thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.

[rainkingucd]

@TxMoose

can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I’m thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.

I was thinking the same thing. I know you can’t really compare event rewards (do Unstable and Juggs reward the same points per node? Same number of nodes? etc.), but interesting that it is so much higher than the last Juggs Heroic.

More strange is that the most recent Heroic was Dark Avengers. 3
reward for Juggs is 20K vs Dark Avengers at 21K. But LT is 43K vs 37K. Maybe not a good comparison, but still interesting.

[mrcheddar]

Reinforcements for the first sub are:

[fmftint]

@TxMoose

can anyone shed any light on the LT progression? after a 4-day unstable event with the LT at 37K. they follow that up with a jugs heroic with the LT at 43K? last LT progression on this event was 32K. did they get those 2 switched (unstable and jugs)? was going to play, but at 43K, I’m thinking I might pass and just go get the cp and some iso.

I asked the same thing last night when the event peview went up

https://forums.505go.com/discussion/38188

[Polares]

@BlackBoltRocks

Extra 6k? The final sub better have a survival node worth 2000 points

Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there…

PS: If I have to play a shitty Heroic event, which I REALLY hate and I don’t get the LT I am going to be really pissed…

[bpcontra]

This event is absolutelying brutal…I almost lost to a level 55 team with a maxed daredevil, obw, torch team.

It’s just ridiculous how difficult each node is. I’m blowing through health packs just to be able to move on to the next node.

[Quebbster]

I have been doing pretty well with Cyclops, Kamala and Blade in the first sub. Hopefully we’ll get a good replacement for Blade in the second sub…

[Bowgentle]

@Polares

Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there…

No, there is no error, no 42K is not off and is easily reachable.

With 3 full clears and a few nodes at the end there’s a least 12K in the first sub, so 14K in the second sub, 16K in the third, for 42K.

Although doing 3 full clears + change of course hurts when it’s against Juggs in the end, so I would advise getting most of your points from subs 1 and 2.

Or just stop playing if you don’t like it, sometimes these posts read as if people are forced to play PVE at gunpoint.

[fmftint]

Of course no one’s being forced to play, that’s not what this is about. The problem is they constantly move the bar, and give the same reason as deconstruction, we can’t tell you why

There’s also a matter of consistency, how often are the progression targets moved from event to event in pvp? Lsat time KK ran the legendary was 1300, would it be reasonable to increase that target 30% just because?
That would be 1690 btw

[Polares]

@Bowgentle

@Polares

Yeah, for now I am playing the event, but I really doubt anyone not in the top10 is going to reach the LT. 42k seems quite off, I think there has been an error there…

No, there is no error, no 42K is not off and is easily reachable.

With 3 full clears and a few nodes at the end there’s a least 12K in the first sub, so 14K in the second sub, 16K in the third, for 42K.

Although doing 3 full clears + change of course hurts when it’s against Juggs in the end, so I would advise getting most of your points from subs 1 and 2.

Or just stop playing if you don’t like it, sometimes these posts read as if people are forced to play PVE at gunpoint.

Every clear of the first sub is around 3200 points, so with 3 clears it is 9600 + 250 *3 + 600, so 3 clears is 10950 more or less. So you will need another pass for the essentials and probably the 3 easy nodes to get to 12k. So you are probably right.

Then we have the scaling problem in these Heroics, and the brutality of fighting scaled versions of Juggs and Doc Ok with goons, with, most of the time, chars without sinergy. In 4 land the chars are Cyclops, xpool, Venom and chulk, so great :S Cyclops and xpool are quite useless together, If I had a more covered/leveled Venom maybe I would be able to play it with xpool, but he is too new, and then chuk is always useless :S So basically I have to use 3s and 2s with Cyclops or xpool (now I use cyclops, blade, OBW) but with the scaling of my most leveled 4s, so great

Oh, and when are 5s going to enter into Heroics?

PS: As I said I hate heroics, it is so stupid having 15 leveled 4s and 20 leveled 3s and not being able to use them, but I want the LT so… At least it is just 3 days.

[Malcrof]

Anyone have the reinforcement list for sub 2 yet?

[lukewin]

@Malcrof

Anyone have the reinforcement list for sub 2 yet?

Black Panther, Wolverine, Hawkeye

[newton999]

Black Panther


Wolverine

Hawkeye

BP is a great help in this sub !

[steakleather]

Who are people using on the last node in round 2, “Won’t Stop?”

[Tatercat]

@steakleather

Who are people using on the last node in round 2, “Won’t Stop?”

I got through it with Kamala/Black Panther/ and X-deadpool, but it wasn’t ideal. My 4* deadpool is only 3/0/5, so I didn’t have his black retaliation damage to help against Kingpin’s constant CD’s. Both he and Kamala were out by the end, Black Panther was the last man standing with 5k health left. I’m thinking about bring DD instead of Deadpool next time for the stunning and using DE’s defense tiles against him with Radar Sense.

Should have done that the first time, but this event has coincided with me getting enough covers & levels to use 4* Deadpool for once and his Countdown for What has been a lot of fun so far in the event.

[Tatercat]

UPDATE: just tried Daredevil. Failed horribly, just couldn’t get his colors built up in time, whole party wiped. Went back to X-pool and cleared it with no problems. Just make sure you target Kingpin first, whoever you use.

[rowdster]

I am getting the tiny kitty kicked out of me clearing these subs. I thought kk torch beast was doing ok, but I lost 10 heals in the last pass. Help!

[Crowl]

In sub 2 I have mostly been using KK, Torch and Panther, unless the computer gets ahead of me due to lucky cascades to add to his regular ap generation they usually do pretty well with two types of aoe and a fairly cheap single target attack.

[Akari]

I got about 17500 in sub 1, so I guess the LT progression isn’t any crazier than normal, despite the huge jump in pts over Unstable ISO8.

I still hate Heroics and their limited rosters though… it’s pretty bad when the reinforcement turns out to be a better team carry than the normal allowed team.