No. Like other previous retroactive rewards, they need to be in your roster to receive. So if you’ve been farming 2-Stars for the last 4 years, you’re not going to suddenly get the pay day of the century.
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This is better than I was hoping for, and I was reasonably optimistic to start with.
On behalf of all the lower and mid-tier rosters, who don’t have the full stable of champed 4* and 5*, thank you! I am really excited to see this come into action.
Holy mackerel that’s a lot to take in! It looks like a pretty solid positive change. I guess it makes sense to max champ all of the two stars and leave them in your roster before the update hits (for the retroactive rewards)? I usually just wait to do a big champ/sell/recruit until they have 50 covers saved up.
Not a huge amount no, but the CP & HP adds up over time. If someone’s using every token as they get them I wouldn’t be surprised if that makes a few pulls from the new 5* token every 6 weeks. This will probably remove 1-2 of those pulls. Not much, but still a huge difference when it comes to getting 5*s.
More importantly, you guys could have easily reworked the ISO-8, HP, & CP values to total the same in the end and still fit the shards in as you see fit. This makes it seem more like you’re taking away from us.
Though I don’t get why Gamora gives Star Lord when Star Lord already gives himself & I don’t see Nebula.
In fact, I don’t get why there are any doubles at all. Or why 4* Carnage gives 5* Doc-Ock instead of 5* Carnage. And I’m guessing that some of these 4s giving not their own 5s is because there already was a feeder for their 5* and/or there was a different 5* they were already giving, though that doesn’t explain why it was 4* Ant-Man instead of 4* Wasp giving 5* Wasp & 4* Jubilee instead of 4* Jean Grey giving 5* Jean Grey in the first place.
edit: noticed some more things
edit 2: fixed some typos, added/changed text for clarity
Here is what I am seeing. For 4* rewards players are losing 62 CP to select the cover you want from the feeder. You are losing 2 latest pulls or 3 classic pulls.
for 3* rewards players are losing 14 CP and 200 HP.
As someone who counts on earning all the CP I can to try and cover the latest 5* this is a significant nerf. The reason why is it is not just one character it is all characters across the board. With 37 4* feeding 5* that is 2294 CP removed from the economy or 92 latest pulls or 115classic pulls. For 3* it is not as significant but overall that is a lot of opportunities to generate CP to get 5* covers.
this is why shards feel like one step forward and 2 steps back. I hope we can see this lost CP move back into the game as shards should feel like added progression not sideways and slightly backwards.
i like the update to the feeders and don’t have an issue with standardized shard collection, my concern is it still is feeling like lateral progress not forward progress.
I 2nd the motion to redistribute replaced rewards back into progression.
Why do we have to lose stuff to get new things when dilution has already been expressed as a concern?
The 4* who don’t feed a 5* are unchanged, so this only affects the 37 4* who feed 5*, but I do see your complaint about lateral progress. The fact is the ability to select the 5* cover is only so valuable to the 4 - 5 feeders, since you end up with two of each in the end. Sure, you may get that cover screwed, but it’s unlikely.
I tend to think the 3* reward change is pretty minor.
@IceIX So when this goes live if we have one character selected for each tier then those specific characters are going to get a ridiculous amount of shards, right? Also, will this be going live after Wolfsbane and MODOK are in tokens?
I caught the feeder and edited as you were typing. The reality is they could have just given 500 shards instead of taking away the CP from the game. The 3* is minor, but it is still taking away the most rare resource in the game without replacing it in other areas of the game.
in situations like 2* and 3*, it shows “cover for primary” – will it be a random color, or consistent? (spreadsheets want to know)
also - to everyone complaining about why shards aren’t in PVE/PVP rewards yet, i would humbly ask that you be patient, considering we’ve been pining for new feeders since the last one ~5 months ago (Miles->Fi5k 7/9/19)
I’ll buy 5 Starks right now if they update the feeders and bring back BHs at a higher rate than before. Honestly, that’s all that was required in the first place.