R192: Champion Rewards Updates

Will this retroactively give us all the rewards for characters we’ve sold previously too - that are no longer on our roster?

No. Like other previous retroactive rewards, they need to be in your roster to receive. So if you’ve been farming 2-Stars for the last 4 years, you’re not going to suddenly get the pay day of the century.

It sure would’ve been nice though :frowning:

D A M N
This is better than I was hoping for, and I was reasonably optimistic to start with.
On behalf of all the lower and mid-tier rosters, who don’t have the full stable of champed 4* and 5*, thank you! I am really excited to see this come into action.

Holy mackerel that’s a lot to take in! It looks like a pretty solid positive change. I guess it makes sense to max champ all of the two stars and leave them in your roster before the update hits (for the retroactive rewards)? I usually just wait to do a big champ/sell/recruit until they have 50 covers saved up.

Not a huge amount no, but the CP & HP adds up over time. If someone’s using every token as they get them I wouldn’t be surprised if that makes a few pulls from the new 5* token every 6 weeks. This will probably remove 1-2 of those pulls. Not much, but still a huge difference when it comes to getting 5*s.

More importantly, you guys could have easily reworked the ISO-8, HP, & CP values to total the same in the end and still fit the shards in as you see fit. This makes it seem more like you’re taking away from us.

Also want to say

ABOUT TIME!!!

Though I don’t get why Gamora gives Star Lord when Star Lord already gives himself & I don’t see Nebula.
In fact, I don’t get why there are any doubles at all. Or why 4* Carnage gives 5* Doc-Ock instead of 5* Carnage. And I’m guessing that some of these 4s giving not their own 5s is because there already was a feeder for their 5* and/or there was a different 5* they were already giving, though that doesn’t explain why it was 4* Ant-Man instead of 4* Wasp giving 5* Wasp & 4* Jubilee instead of 4* Jean Grey giving 5* Jean Grey in the first place.

edit: noticed some more things
edit 2: fixed some typos, added/changed text for clarity

Here is what I am seeing. For 4* rewards players are losing 62 CP to select the cover you want from the feeder. You are losing 2 latest pulls or 3 classic pulls.

for 3* rewards players are losing 14 CP and 200 HP.

As someone who counts on earning all the CP I can to try and cover the latest 5* this is a significant nerf. The reason why is it is not just one character it is all characters across the board. With 37 4* feeding 5* that is 2294 CP removed from the economy or 92 latest pulls or 115classic pulls. For 3* it is not as significant but overall that is a lot of opportunities to generate CP to get 5* covers.

this is why shards feel like one step forward and 2 steps back. I hope we can see this lost CP move back into the game as shards should feel like added progression not sideways and slightly backwards.

i like the update to the feeders and don’t have an issue with standardized shard collection, my concern is it still is feeling like lateral progress not forward progress.

edited math to only list feeders

I 2nd the motion to redistribute replaced rewards back into progression.
Why do we have to lose stuff to get new things when dilution has already been expressed as a concern?

The 4* who don’t feed a 5* are unchanged, so this only affects the 37 4* who feed 5*, but I do see your complaint about lateral progress. The fact is the ability to select the 5* cover is only so valuable to the 4 - 5 feeders, since you end up with two of each in the end. Sure, you may get that cover screwed, but it’s unlikely.

I tend to think the 3* reward change is pretty minor.

@IceIX So when this goes live if we have one character selected for each tier then those specific characters are going to get a ridiculous amount of shards, right? Also, will this be going live after Wolfsbane and MODOK are in tokens?

I caught the feeder and edited as you were typing. The reality is they could have just given 500 shards instead of taking away the CP from the game. The 3* is minor, but it is still taking away the most rare resource in the game without replacing it in other areas of the game.

thr main reason to farm 3* is for HP, CP, and LT

Looks like I need to champ all my characters with load of saved covers.

The shards will be for specific characters, not your favorited character.

Unbelievable updates! :open_mouth:

They deserve at least one Stark Salary from each of the critics. B)

Seriously, everyone just needs to chill for a second. We’ll get all of the CP we’re losing in CL10 progression rewards…

@IceIX - one question of clarity please

in situations like 2* and 3*, it shows “cover for primary” – will it be a random color, or consistent? (spreadsheets want to know)

also - to everyone complaining about why shards aren’t in PVE/PVP rewards yet, i would humbly ask that you be patient, considering we’ve been pining for new feeders since the last one ~5 months ago (Miles->Fi5k 7/9/19)

I’ll buy 5 Starks right now if they update the feeders and bring back BHs at a higher rate than before. Honestly, that’s all that was required in the first place.

Re: retroactive rewards; if I have a 4* character at level 300 and received a 5* cover, would I get 500 shards retroactively?