Well honestly, when champing came out I was still working on levelling up and championing the last five to ten 3s I had left to do and thought 4s were a distant dream I’d maybe get around to eventually. Meanwhile others already had their maxed XFW, Thors, Invisible Womans, Nick Furies and so on.
By the time 5s become less wonky in their execution I’ll probably be on top of the 4 releases and starting from scratch. I play to max out characters, really. Being the very best like no-one ever was isn’t really my bag. My goal is to get covers, get ISO and try to place well enough to get the best rewards possible.
Yes, but most people are a long way off of 340+ level 4s. I’ve had Carol as my sole 4 BH’ed for a couple of months to try and get her there, and she’s only just about to hit 320.
On the flip; don’t want to champ 5s just now? Take one or two up to 360 and they can still be fun to play without changing mmr if you have plenty of 4 champs.
QFT. I’ve been on the fence about trying to make the jump to 5s, but my highest 4 is L287, most are sub L275. This is largely because I’m hoarding to be able to pull the latest 3 5s at some point, so it’s a double-edged sword. To get to 5 land reliably and without waste you have to hoard up 300 latest pulls (which is taking me about 6 months currently) but doing that make it unlikely the 4s you have will be usable be side them when you get there. The 5 transition (and pretty much everything about the 5* tier from what I hear) is broken.
I think what I’m probably going to do now that vaulting being undone forced me to rethink long-term plans again.
Hoard all LTs until I reach 300 LTs or I have every 4* champed (latest 12 excluded), whichever comes first
Hoard CP until I have enough ISO built up to champ at least 3 4s (which is gonna be a while because I have 4 4s at 13 that will get champed first and will likely have 1-2 more up to 13 by the time those are done).
If I end up starting to get some 5s to 13 before my 4s are sufficiently higher I will soft cap them for as long as I can and try to wait for a stronger overall roster.
Nope. If you hadn’t been champing 4s they might have made a difference, but with champed 4s collecting 5 stars has no negative effect on the game. As a result my 5-8 cover 5 stars can be pulled out for fun every so often, heck even my 1 cover Hawkeye has his moments (It’s the good cover) Whereas 2000 ISO has negligible value in the long run.
Nah, I don’t refuse the 5* tier. If I only rostered them after I “finished” the 4* tier, then I would be so far behind on the 5s. From what I gather, the 5 tier is a pain because of scaling and rng. Scaling is mostly fixed, and I have them all at 255. I have some 3* champs higher than my 5s.
Covering a 5 is a pain, but its not my main goal so any covers are gravy.
I don’t plan on becoming a 5* player since I am strictly ftp, but I am also a collector so I don’t want to sell them
I have had bad luck with 5* covers. When they were introduced I was still champing 3s. Now I have 30 4 champs and growing and my highest covered 5* is Silver Surfer with 9 covers, other old 5s like Phoenix (6 covers) OML (4 covers). I’ve never gotten a bonus 5. I couldn’t join the 5* tier if I wanted to.
So I will just continue to champ 4s, getting a more varied and slowly more powerful roster. I keep 5 covers when I get them and when I get a few up to 13 covers I’ll take stock from there.
I don’t play this game like a competition. I am fine with others who play more, have played longer or spent more having better rosters than me. I play because I like the gameplay and the collecting of characters. My roster continues to grow in number and power at a decent enough rate for me (wish we got more Iso).
But yes, selling 5* covers is extremely short sighted.
It’s not a mindset, it’s reality. You can’t place your way into 5-star covers. You can’t buy 5-star covers. The only thing any of us can do is progress our way into 5-star covers. Legendary Tokens and CP are the only way into the club and even that method requires more than a little plain old fashioned dumb luck. It’s a slooooooooow progression.
It’s not that I’m choosing not to play the 5-star game, I literally can’t.
That’s reassuring. With the new scaling I think the 5-star realm may get a lot of life. Maybe down the road they’ll have a boost rotation as well, that really helps spice up the variety of the 4-star game.
I currently have twelve 4s unrostered and that’s where my HP goes. As the result, I hate getting 5s from the pulls. I wish that we’d have the ability to replace covers with lower lever ones. Should be fair to players and the devs.
Except this thread (titled “Refusing 5*”) is specifically about people choosing to sell or not level the 5* characters that they do get. While you may not be able to choose to move to 5*, you can certainly choose to not move to 5*, and that’s who I’m addressing here.
The OPer also states they have played for less than a year and has ‘a few’ 5-star covers. I’m only guessing here, but it sounds like his ‘choice’ isn’t a choice at all.
Perhaps he should have titled the thread “5* are too hard to get” then. As it stands, he and many other posters are saying not that 5* are too hard to get, but that they don’t want them at all.
He also says “Any 5* cover I pick is another 2000 ISO-8.” It’s not clear if he’s saying from here on out or if he’s been choosing to that for months. Either way. 5*s aren’t so hard to get that you only get a few in a year while regularly opening latest so either he only has a few because he only started opening latest recently or he’s sold a lot, he’s asking people to choose to do so now.
Why is it they don’t want 5-stars? Is it because 5-stars are the path to placement in PvP? Is it because they make PvE so much quicker? No, it’s because they can’t get enough to justify using a roster slot on them. I’m not disputing the OPer’s original point with you, I’m just making an observation on what I think is the root cause. I’m not even complaining about 5-star availability, they should be hard to obtain, but it’s worthy of discussing on a thread about the viability of rostering and leveling 5-stars.
I plan to move into 5* play at some point, but it really depends on, well, if I’m still playing MPQ when I’m in a position to do so. I’ve never sold a 5* cover. Doing some light math I have 36 covers and I’m day 299. If I extrapolate that’s 43 covers a year. With 17 5* characters there are 221 covers in play. Even if I never duped, that’s 5+ years to fully cover them all.
I realise that my rate of getting covers will likely increase as my flow of CP increases and that I shouldn’t be focused on fully covering all of them. Point is that the time to get there is a bit daunting. It’ll take years of steady gameplay.
I completely understand someone deciding to focus on 4* s and just staying away from the 5* tier. Not what I plan to do, I find using even under-covered 5*s fun in certain situations, but I get the OP’s reluctance to even roster something they may never use meaningfully for a very long time.