# Standard Recruit Token drop rates? **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 15, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237 "2014-07-15T00:18:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/1 "2014-07-15T00:18:10Z")
So, after finishing some last minute grind for the PVE sub that just ended, I had a few of the standard recruit tokens to dump into ISO. Walked away with 3\* Thor green and 3\* Human Torch black, making 3-4 recruit tokens better than my 10 packs from three PVP seasons. Anyone else noticing better drops or did I just get blessed by the Random Number God? ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/2 "2014-07-15T00:26:37Z")
And lo did RNGesus look favorably upon them and lo did he thus bless them with covers that lackethed thine bagmen. ---
**Author:** ![Marvelous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Marvelous](https://forums.505go.com/u/Marvelous)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 1:08am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/3 "2014-07-15T01:08:17Z")
Oh hell no!!!.. I feel the exact opposite (and so do my team mates). I have had recently approximately 15 silver tokens and roughly 5 gold. AND EVERY SINGLE one produced 1 star covers or the occasional 2 star that I already had maxed out. Before this I would have at least gotten two or three 3 star covers with that many tokens.. it now appears silver no longer gives out 3 star and the rates have DROPPED DRASITCALLY to almost comically levels.. (no pun intended.) ---
**Author:** ![Leugenesmiff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Leugenesmiff](https://forums.505go.com/u/Leugenesmiff)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 2:53am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/4 "2014-07-15T02:53:25Z")
I’ve kept a count am am at 41 straight standard tokens with nothing higher than a 2\*. I’ve asked my alliance to let me know if someone gets a 3 or 4\* from a standard token since it’s been so much longer than normal for me and no one has gotten gold in some time. I haven’t read that drop rates have changed so this could just be a run of bad luck. It’s not like the devs would do something to make resources/covers harder to come by. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 2:56am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/5 "2014-07-15T02:56:22Z")
I last day open around 18 standard tokens and had two very useful Gold from them… so is likely you only have bad luck ---
**Author:** ![dr\_tinykittylove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5e9695/32.png) [@dr\_tinykittylove](https://forums.505go.com/u/dr_tinykittylove)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 3:12am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/6 "2014-07-15T03:12:16Z")
The token drops rates are a lie. While standard tokens do give mostly 1\*, in the past week I’ve drawn 1 Bag-Force 4\* and 2 3\* (both unusable). Meanwhile, 3 out of 3 event tokens for The Hunt have given me Ares, making it a 100% rate. I almost feel like should build a second Ares, but considering as my next roster slot will cost 500hp, I better just collect Bagman so I won’t be too sad when TPTB release a new character and I have to abandon Bagman in the woods. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 9:08am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/7 "2014-07-15T09:08:16Z")
Token drop rates in general are annoying. My buddy that I started with gets a 3\* with just about every Heroic-esque token. I finish higher than him in just about every event but he’s wayyy ahead of me in the 3\* race because he pulls them left and right, including some in Standard packs. ---
**Author:** ![GrumpySmurf1002](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/grumpysmurf1002/32/4688_2.png) [@GrumpySmurf1002](https://forums.505go.com/u/GrumpySmurf1002)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 9:18am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/8 "2014-07-15T09:18:02Z")
I started tracking on 6/20. I’m 1 for 147 with getting a 3\*+ out of standard tokens. Of course, in that same time I’ve been running scorching hot with the 2\* tokens, so I’m good. Definitely much easier on my personal sanity since I started keeping track. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 9:31am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/9 "2014-07-15T09:31:07Z")
ive been cashing in my tokens at 25 a pop and ive gotten 1 3\* for each batch. I tried to do 50 at one time as well and got 2. ive only done this 5 times (125 tokens) though so not sure how accurate that is.. ![icon_e_biggrin.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/9/9da0ce06e62533a4e29efe560c9926ab2566ea47.gif) ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 9:55am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/10 "2014-07-15T09:55:10Z")
I think its just RNG being an absolute P.I.T.A as usual… I’ve noticed with standard tokens its like playing the slots in Vegas, depending on your luck you can either get a lot of gold cards, or end up with a whole lot of nothing… I recently pulled a gold 3\* from a standard token after a bit of a drought, and now it seems im back in that drought waiting for the RNG Gods to smile down on me and gimme some of those gold covers i desperately need ![icon_lol.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/df075d9b4a1733c0e2bc1aadb0aa6d547e345497.gif) ---
**Author:** ![GrimSkald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/grimskald/32/6363_2.png) [@GrimSkald](https://forums.505go.com/u/GrimSkald)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:10am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/11 "2014-07-15T11:10:38Z")
Computers are actually very bad at generating honest-to-goodness random numbers. They tend to get stuck in trends - so the overall effect is that the numbers are random but only in the very long run. In the short term, you’ll get a long run of bad luck until it gets to the point of ridiculousness, then you’ll get a run of good luck. Of course, we tend to notice the bad more than the good. I’ve been tracking my standard covers for a while now (I’ll update the shared master spreadsheet in a bit.) Out of 383, here’s my current breakdown: Stars - Covers - Percent - ------309 ---- 80.7% \*\* ----- 63 ----- 16.4% \*\*\* ---- 11 ---- 2.9% \*\*\*\* ---- 0 ---- 0% I actually didn’t think you could get \*\*\*\* on a standard token, but did someone here say they got one? If the chance is less than 1%, then getting 0 out of nearly 400 is still definitely well within the range of possibility. Incidentally, I’m on one of those “bad luck runs” right now. I haven’t gotten a rare in over two weeks and I haven’t gotten a \*\* in the last 20 or so… ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/12 "2014-07-15T11:41:59Z")
> [@GrimSkald](#): > > Computers are actually very bad at generating honest-to-goodness random numbers. They tend to get stuck in trends - so the overall effect is that the numbers are random but only in the very long run. Agreed - which is why I save up tokens to open in bunches. When I have 50+, I will start opening 5 at a time. If I get good draws, 5 more. Bad draws and I wait a day, let the trends change. ---
**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 2:44am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/standard-recruit-token-drop-rates/8237/13 "2014-07-16T02:44:16Z")
My standards are in a really bad spot right now. Out of the last 50 opened, the best was a 2\* Thor that was quickly sold for ISO. Guess it’s time to just bank them, wait a couple of weeks, and see if there is any kind of improvement?? Also, that 2\* Thor was the only 2\* drop out of the bunch.