t10 for PVE

I checked in tips and guides and didn’t find anything so here goes…

Any players who consistently get T10 in PVE events could you please tell me how much you grind?

Do you just grind every node on every sub down to 1..then keep grinding?

I’m curious how the t10 (which are a good 7k above me in 52) are getting so much more points than me when I’m doing optimal clears with 2 x grinds of all the essentials. Those above me must be grinding like crazy

depends on the bracket and yes you can join grindingfest bracket where everyone tryharding.

For new releases, I clear regularly, then at the sub ends grind as much as I can in as little time as possible. icon_e_smile.gif
I’m normally content with t10, the t1-2 people will have more detailed strategies that generally involve grinding everything to 1 in a certain order.

If you still have time left after grinding everything to 1, you probably started grinding too early…

I saw you in my bracket and figured my thing was already 445 so I may as well let it go to someone who needs the green. Grats on finally covering your thing!

I took 11th right behind you icon_e_smile.gif

Thanks for the info, I don’t really have much intention on actually grinding for top rewards, I work far too much unfortunately. I was more just curious as to what insanity people put themselves through for t10. As a transitioner I don’t really need those ice covers (yet) so I’m happy with t30 or so to complete my 3* collection.

Again thanks for the info, always find your posts informative.

Speaking as someone that regularly clears, gets LTs, and finishes in the top 50, #4 is why PVE is so flipping terrible. If there are 1000 ppl in a bracket, why is only 1% of players getting any sort of reasonable progress (and 0.2% prior)? There is just no way I can justify grinding PVE for 4-5hrs every single day for 1-2 4* covers. I have played other mobile games and my general experience is that top 5% is usually good enough for some sort of premium award. And, who knows what championing will do now that more players will be gunning for dupe 3* covers again (myself included).

I still haven’t gotten to the point where I’m gonna sacrifice the LT to have the chance of catching a fresh bracket on the last sub to compete for t10. Of course, given my track record w/ LTs (2 5*s out of 62 pulls), I probably should.

Also, I’m not judging and am actually very impressed w/ the level of dedication and skill to manage the clears and grinds that t10 finishes in deathbrackets takes, so props to you.

Aes, hit all the important tips.

One extra thing is speed. The faster you finish each clear the more points you’ll have available for the final grind. You may want to use boosts (all AP). Just be aware using boosts will raise scaling. If you can wait till 2 hours before final grind instead of 3 hours you can squeak out even more points. However, that’s very risky since doing each node 5 times minimum is better than waiting another hour.

Clearing crazy fast though only really required if you are going for t2. Doing on time clears and a full final 3 hour grind at the end of each sub should net an easy t10.

Aesth’s post is really really good. That is the best way to maximize your points. I just want to add that sometimes you have to use your best judgement. There are many pves where I do the hardest node first so the scaling on that node doesn’t go insane. Id rather miss out on a few points than miss out on a ton later. You can always go back and try to get the hundred or so points it regenerated at the end of your grind. This also starts your health pack timer earlier. If you are a careful player one health pack can get you through thousands of points. You have 14-15 health packs to work with if you start the cooldown right away. Most important of all, it keeps my frustration down because I know the worst part of the grind is over with.

I’m usually top10 every pvp and I was first in the second run of Carnage @ 95034 points. Skipped the first 3 clears entirely. In the last 2 subs I did the Carnage node first simply because I wanted to get it done and over with. I would have gotten very upset if I saved it for last and kept wiping on it with 10 minutes left.

Yeah, I remember a run of The Hunt where everything was going great in Florida and I just had the Ares node left… but it had scaled to insane levels and I kept wiping and I quickly fell down the ratings. Boo-urns!

I defer to you on questions of data, aes, but can you explain why start with the lowest value node on the grind? I usually start with the highest on the justification that I’ll get them while scaling is at its lowest and health packs are flush.

If you cleared at 0, 8, and 16 hour mark, nodes won’t be fully regenerated by the time you start your grind. Higher point nodes regenerate more points per minute so you let it build up as high as it can go before you grind it.

Clear high to low, grind low to high.

And now I know…

Here’s a question, How can you start with the hard nodes when you have to play the nodes in sequence? Or do you mean start with hard nodes after first clear?

Yes, the second one, but only if you missed clearing right on the button and harder nodes have refreshed. The rule of thumb appears to be always start with the node that is 1) highest value and 2) fully refreshed.

Unless you’re grinding.

There are two thumbs.

The difference between top ten and first place is massive. Top ten is actually quite leisurely comparatively. The biggest thing you can do to ensure an easier grind is just making sure you hit 8 hour cycles as close to possible as you can. If you have a choice between clearing a cycle a bit early or clearing it late, it’s better to clear it a bit early. When you leave a node at max points, that essentially wastes points that it would have been regenerating.

This is the most useful thing I’ve read on the Internet today.

And this is why some top PvE players will still advise you to grind high to low. The combination of missing out on finishing all the nodes as well as scaling increasing while you’re beating the other nodes leads a lot of people to grind high to low. Yes someone who is able to handle the scaling better will beat you grinding the other way, but you probably didn’t stand much of a chance against that person anyway.

Just as a note - grinding high to low ensures that all nodes stay at normal difficulty or maybe barely tips into hard, but grinding low to high will leave you with hard and deadly nodes at the end.

Oh also - the wave node example is certainly a good one, but if you’re only leaving 30 minutes at the end to finish the hardest wave node, you probably aren’t going to have time to grind it down to 0. 4-5 waves of 200+ level enemies…even with winfinite or another “foolproof” wave node strategy it just takes a lot of time to chew through that much health.