# Too many 5\* PvPs **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799 "2022-07-28T18:03:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dianetics](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e4f/32.png) [@dianetics](https://forums.505go.com/u/dianetics)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:03pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/1 "2022-07-28T18:03:55Z")
5\* pvps are coming too frequently now. We ended last season with 2 5\*s in a row. Which is not helpful for people with lower roster levels. I think 1-2 5\* PvP events per month is pushing it. Possibly more 4_s, but you cannot drop all 3_ pvps and jump all the way to regular 5\*. not everyone has a complete roster and I think this will lower engagement long term for the people who do not have the required characters champed. ---
**Author:** ![ThaRoadWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tharoadwarrior/32/23476_2.png) [@ThaRoadWarrior](https://forums.505go.com/u/ThaRoadWarrior)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:17pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/2 "2022-07-28T18:17:27Z")
Hm, that’s a bummer. As somebody with a Baby Champ-em All roster I’ve found it pretty refreshing rather than being saddled with all the 3\* pvp we usually get. ---
**Author:** ![MegaBee](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/megabee/32/2428_2.png) [@MegaBee](https://forums.505go.com/u/MegaBee)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/3 "2022-07-28T18:23:03Z")
> [@dianetics](#): > > 5\* pvps are coming too frequently now. We ended last season with 2 5\*s in a row. Which is not helpful for people with lower roster levels. > > I think 1-2 5\* PvP events per month is pushing it. > > Possibly more 4_s, but you cannot drop all 3_ pvps and jump all the way to regular 5\*. > > not everyone has a complete roster and I think this will lower engagement long term for the people who do not have the required characters champed. Seems like a great time to try out the 5\* loaners while using your own roster. ---
**Author:** ![HoundofShadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@HoundofShadow](https://forums.505go.com/u/HoundofShadow)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/4 "2022-07-28T18:23:57Z")
5\* loaners help to tank damage for lower tier players. It helps them to save healthpacks. ---
**Author:** ![Godzillafan67](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/godzillafan67/32/25609_2.png) [@Godzillafan67](https://forums.505go.com/u/Godzillafan67)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 6:47pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/5 "2022-07-28T18:47:44Z")
> [@HoundofShadow](#): > > 5\* loaners help to tank damage for lower tier players. It helps them to save healthpacks. Exactly. I loved it when my America Chavez/Gamora team had a meat-shield to hide behind. Maybe we should lobby for 1\* and 2\* PvP matches. ---
**Author:** ![KGB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/74df32/32.png) [@KGB](https://forums.505go.com/u/KGB)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2022, 7:22pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/6 "2022-07-28T19:22:53Z")
> [@Godzillafan67](#): > > Maybe we should lobby for 1\* and 2\* PvP matches. Thanos approves this suggestion 😃 KGB ---
**Author:** ![Milmanias](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/97f17d/32.png) [@Milmanias](https://forums.505go.com/u/Milmanias)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 3:06am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/7 "2022-07-29T03:06:11Z")
I love the variety. The same 3\*s pvp’s was getting old. ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 8:03am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/8 "2022-07-29T08:03:57Z")
I like 5\* PvP much more than 3\* Pvp. We will be getting new 3\* PvP from September so things should balance out but until then bring it on! ---
**Author:** ![Pottsie1980](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pottsie1980](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pottsie1980)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 10:37am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/9 "2022-07-29T10:37:56Z")
I have enjoyed the 5\* events a lot more than the usual 3\*. Even at low covers, they seem to have more impact on the match compared to a maxed 3\*. ---
**Author:** ![TheEyeDoctorsWife](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@TheEyeDoctorsWife](https://forums.505go.com/u/TheEyeDoctorsWife)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/10 "2022-07-29T12:53:38Z")
It does benefit the smarter player since all his fives are champed or well covered but they would have to use a loaner on a three. I imagine it’s harder on newer players but it probably depends on MMR rankings . I’d prefer 5s only but that’s incredibly selfish to the player base , a 345 rotation seems equitable ---
**Author:** ![HoundofShadow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9a140/32.png) [@HoundofShadow](https://forums.505go.com/u/HoundofShadow)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/11 "2022-07-29T14:01:57Z")
I think we should have more Balance of Powers: fairness to all. ---
**Author:** ![ThaRoadWarrior](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/tharoadwarrior/32/23476_2.png) [@ThaRoadWarrior](https://forums.505go.com/u/ThaRoadWarrior)\ **Post date:** [July 29, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/12 "2022-07-29T15:37:19Z")
I do like the novelty ruleset PVPs here and there. The ones that aren’t super fun to me are the pick-3 ones with odd or no boost lists that are basically just a second round of simulator. ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:23am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/13 "2022-07-30T05:23:11Z")
On a related note playing the Kraven PvP has meant that bloody song is stuck in my head now and I really need it to stop! ---
**Author:** ![revskip](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/revskip/32/871_2.png) [@revskip](https://forums.505go.com/u/revskip)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/14 "2022-07-30T17:58:27Z")
5\* PvP is great for new players. You just pick a team that can hide behind the 5\* and use 0 healthpacks. The worst PvP events for new players are 3\* events since in those you either have to use a completely useless loaner or have to use an extra health pack every fight. Since MMR matches you with similar rosters until you break that point level you are also just fighting other teams with a 5\* loaner and 2 other characters similar to yours. My alt account loves 5\* events for exactly that reason. Hide 3_Strange/3_IF and whittle down everything without having to use a single healthpack unless there is a massive cascade. Now 5\* PvPs are a grind for 4\* and 5\* players because the health of that loaner is much, much bigger than a 3\* or 4\* but for newer players it is the best possible situation. ---
**Author:** ![CharlieLima](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/charlielima/32/6733_2.png) [@CharlieLima](https://forums.505go.com/u/CharlieLima)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2022, 6:52am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/too-many-5-pvps/57799/15 "2022-07-31T06:52:17Z")
5\* loaners also allow a newbie to try out the I power set to see if they like the character and want to work towards them.