# Unannounced Changes

**URL:** <https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262>\
**Category:** MtGPQ General Discussion\
**Created:** [April 21, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262 "2016-04-21T15:15:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rootbreaker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Rootbreaker](https://forums.505go.com/u/Rootbreaker)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/1 "2016-04-21T15:15:04Z")

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What changes have you found that weren’t in the patch notes or preview articles?

Orbs of warding is a damage prevention effect now, not a life gain effect.

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**Author:** ![OrionKannan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/orionkannan/32/7870_2.png) [@OrionKannan](https://forums.505go.com/u/OrionKannan)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 4:21pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/2 "2016-04-21T16:21:51Z")

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Looks like Jace’s 3rd ability now casts traps instead of activates. Since trying to set up matches used to result in my opponent “screwing me over”, it is a welcome change than I can now set up a match and the opponent is punished instead of me.

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**Author:** ![loroku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@loroku](https://forums.505go.com/u/loroku)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/3 "2016-04-21T16:25:28Z")

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> [@OrionKannan](#):
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> Looks like Jace’s 3rd ability now casts traps instead of activates.

Actually that was announced in the patch notes.

Some unannounced changes:

- Massive, massive UI overhaul, including new and better searching / sorting mechanics, and the ability to see all cards even if you don’t have them (from both sets)

- Big Boxes now have a guaranteed rare _in addition to_ all other cards (written as to imply that there is a chance it can be a mythic)

- New PWs are available for real money purchases the first week, then will be available for crystals **ON MAY 13**

- Rewards from last night’s PvP have been converted to BfZ if you haven’t already claimed them; no confirmation yet on if the monthly fat pack does the same

- The “convert all duplicates” popup happens EVERY time you log in and has NO CONFIRMATION BOX if you click it

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**Author:** ![EDUSAN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f6c823/32.png) [@EDUSAN](https://forums.505go.com/u/EDUSAN)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:34pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/4 "2016-04-21T17:34:49Z")

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From what i could test it seems cards like malakir are getting their bonuses repeatedly like they used to ( test it with the green 5/6 reach card)

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**Author:** ![EDHdad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9f8e36/32.png) [@EDHdad](https://forums.505go.com/u/EDHdad)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/5 "2016-04-21T17:38:47Z")

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Not sure which of these were announced, and the game is currently down, so going by memory:

- Each Planeswalker gets +3 mana for a match of their color at level 60.

- Chandra’s -9 deals 4 damage to each creature at level 60.

- Ampryn Tactician is now a 4/4 vanilla, with no ability in the textbox.

- In story mode, you can now go back to each story which you have beaten, beat it with at least 1 Planeswalker of each color, and get 10 bonus mana crystals.

- In the demo mode, there was a Kiora Planeswalker who is blue and green. Kiora is a blue-green Planeswalker in the BFZ paper set. This suggests that there might be a 2-color deck possible in the future.

- I don’t recall anyone mentioning you having to pay $14.99 for each of the new Planeswalkers.

- PvP mode now has thousands of people in a pod, rather than 500-ish.

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**Author:** ![EDUSAN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f6c823/32.png) [@EDUSAN](https://forums.505go.com/u/EDUSAN)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:41pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/6 "2016-04-21T17:41:32Z")

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Having huuuuge ladder brackets its going to Make getting to a decent reward a lot harder. hope that is temporary or its gonna get tough

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**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/7 "2016-04-21T17:56:13Z")

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“Orbs of warding is a damage prevention effect now, not a life gain effect”

what… NO, not cool, can’t combo with the archive now ![icon_e_sad.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/d/dec89758d5cdb6af674674dd0ec5ff3d149d9483.gif)

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**Author:** ![system](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/1X/b4ba35e5c3a2d4e8b33a15c0ffd8c646489f10f2.png) [@system](https://forums.505go.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/8 "2016-04-21T19:09:42Z")

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> [@EDUSAN](#):
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> Having huuuuge ladder brackets its going to Make getting to a decent reward a lot harder. hope that is temporary or its gonna get tough

This was an error that occurred when 1.3 was released and real rewards were introduced; before that, it was just one accumulation of wins dating back to the the release date. Anyhow, the error resulted in brackets of something like 5000 or more players. Maybe that is what current (4:09PM PST) maintenance is fixing.

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**Author:** ![ChrisTot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f6c823/32.png) [@ChrisTot](https://forums.505go.com/u/ChrisTot)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/9 "2016-04-21T19:18:02Z")

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> [@EDHdad](#):
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> Not sure which of these were announced, and the game is currently down, so going by memory:
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> - Each Planeswalker gets +3 mana for a match of their color at level 60.
> 
> - Chandra’s -9 deals 4 damage to each creature at level 60.
> 
> - Ampryn Tactician is now a 4/4 vanilla, with no ability in the textbox.
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> - In story mode, you can now go back to each story which you have beaten, beat it with at least 1 Planeswalker of each color, and get 10 bonus mana crystals.
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> - In the demo mode, there was a Kiora Planeswalker who is blue and green. Kiora is a blue-green Planeswalker in the BFZ paper set. This suggests that there might be a 2-color deck possible in the future.
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> - I don’t recall anyone mentioning you having to pay $14.99 for each of the new Planeswalkers.
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> - PvP mode now has thousands of people in a pod, rather than 500-ish.

In regards to “\* Ampryn Tactician is now a 4/4 vanilla, with no ability in the textbook.”:

Ember maw Hellion looked this way for me. And so did lots of other cards. I think there’s a race condition for displaying the text or not. Or this data needed to be downloaded again and then cached. Either way, our cards didn’t lose their abilities (I don’t think).

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**Author:** ![loroku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@loroku](https://forums.505go.com/u/loroku)\
**Post date:** [April 21, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/10 "2016-04-21T19:34:11Z")

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> [@EDHdad](#):
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> - PvP mode now has thousands of people in a pod, rather than 500-ish.

> [@EDUSAN](#):
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> Having huuuuge ladder brackets its going to Make getting to a decent reward a lot harder. hope that is temporary or its gonna get tough

I’m 99% sure this is a bug. Possibly why they took it down for maintenance. That’s way too big of a change - WAY bigger than 300 new cards, card breaking, new characters - all that stuff.  
Kore got it:

> [@kore](#):
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> This was an error that occurred when 1.3 was released and real rewards were introduced; before that, it was just one accumulation of wins dating back to the the release date. Anyhow, the error resulted in brackets of something like 5000 or more players. Maybe that is what current (4:09PM PST) maintenance is fixing.

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**Author:** ![Morphis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/aeb1de/32.png) [@Morphis](https://forums.505go.com/u/Morphis)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 5:03am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/11 "2016-04-22T05:03:44Z")

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> [@EDHdad](#):
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> - Ampryn Tactician is now a 4/4 vanilla, with no ability in the textbox.

That is actually a display bug happening at random on cards…  
I had it happen on a spell too… A spell with no effect? Sure!  
Also can confirm in my inventory anpryn is unchanged.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/12 "2016-04-22T05:25:55Z")

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I got 3 rares in a booster box. Is that good? That was including the bonus 1 at the end of all the packs.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 8:47am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/13 "2016-04-22T08:47:56Z")

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> [@xlee](#):
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> I got 3 rares in a booster box. Is that good? That was including the bonus 1 at the end of all the packs.

The expected value for number of rares is being compiled in another thread:

> [@Nerimos](#):
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> **Average Big Box ![icon_arrow.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7e55d7886ccb5666aab5d670af0dba282109adb5.gif)  
> Total**  
> 33,0 Commons (47,14%)  
> 31,0 Uncommons (44,29%)  
> 4,83 Rares (6,9%)  
> 1,17 Mythics (1,7%)

This is from March 19th, but the odds don’t seem too different with the latest patch. Also this is from a fairly small sample size (12) so it’s not the most precise set of odds, but it does give you a picture: You’d expect to get 1 mythic and 5 rares per box on average not including the bonus guaranteed rare/mythic.

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**Author:** ![loroku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@loroku](https://forums.505go.com/u/loroku)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:22am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/14 "2016-04-22T09:22:35Z")

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Not unannounced, but **PATCH NOTES ARE WRONG** :

> [@PatchNotes](#):
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> _Gideon, Battle-Forged_
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> - Call to Arms: Each rank now costs 12 (up from 9 for Rank 1 and down from 15 for Rank 3)

- Call to Arms: Each rank now costs **15** (up from 9 for Rank 1 and 12 for Rank 2)

> [@PatchNotes](#):
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> _Liliana, Defiant Necromancer_

It’s worth noting that Liliana’s rank 1 and rank 3 abilities DO NOT GET STRONGER but instead have a LOWER COST at max level. This breaks the pattern set by every other PW.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:25am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/15 "2016-04-22T09:25:36Z")

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Hangerback Walker now spawns a Thopter for every match even if they happen at the same time.

I think immediately after the patch i had 10K in my quick battle. That must have been a bug or they changed it, rewards banners now show that there will be 3,000 per quick battle, so 6x the 500 from before.

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**Author:** ![loroku](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@loroku](https://forums.505go.com/u/loroku)\
**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:28am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/16 "2016-04-22T09:28:27Z")

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> [@soultwist](#):
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> I think immediately after the patch i had 10K in my quick battle. That must have been a bug or they changed it, rewards banners now show that there will be 3,000 per quick battle, so 6x the 500 from before.

What are you talking about here? The final PvP placement reward or the per-battle reward?

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:45am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/17 "2016-04-22T09:45:04Z")

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> [@loroku](#):
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> > [@soultwist](#):
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> > I think immediately after the patch i had 10K in my quick battle. That must have been a bug or they changed it, rewards banners now show that there will be 3,000 per quick battle, so 6x the 500 from before.
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> What are you talking about here? The final PvP placement reward or the per-battle reward?

There are now 3,000 people in each quick battle. You can click on “your current reward level” and see all of the banners detailing the prizes for the place you finish in, those now go all the way to 3,000th place. Before there were 500 people.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:48am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/18 "2016-04-22T09:48:08Z")

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I am not playing QB but story mode cause I hope this is the “return” of the ladder bug.  
If it is intended I could just quit QB altogether. There is no chance atm getting even a decent place.

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:57am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/19 "2016-04-22T09:57:29Z")

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I dont think it can possibly be a bug as they banners that show the prizes are all redone and now go to 3,000. For example the second tier is now 2-10 instead of 2-6. 501-1000 get an Uncommon, +250 ![manarune.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/ea56d0cbc391498039d9ef2f28fb15ee7d056293.png)  
, 1001-3000 just get 100 ![manarune.png](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/e/ea56d0cbc391498039d9ef2f28fb15ee7d056293.png)  
1st place now gets a big box, as if it wasn’t hard enough to get first before!

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**Post date:** [April 22, 2016, 9:59am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/unannounced-changes/24262/20 "2016-04-22T09:59:41Z")

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Another unannounced changed

the Ladder brackets changed

now brackets are

1st  
2 to 10  
11 to 50  
51 to 150  
151 to 250  
251 to 500  
501 to 1000  
10001 to 3000

i think this shows that the huge QB ladders are not a bug. If there are rewards for those brackets then its not a mistake

To compnsate a bit, to get 10 crystals you needed to be below 100 before, now you can get that below 250  
and to get 30 crystals you used to need to be in the 7-27 brackets right? now being 50 you get it

edit: soultwist beat me to it ![icon_razz.gif](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/uploads/x505go/original/2X/7/7f80885b69adeb0a506d2d0c554fefaf9b3e0443.gif)

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