# Update to Heroes for Hire (6/23/17) \*Updated (6/26/17) **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [June 23, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445 "2017-06-23T22:36:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Brigby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/brigby/32/6367_2.png) [@Brigby](https://forums.505go.com/u/Brigby)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:36pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/1 "2017-06-23T22:36:09Z")
Hi Everyone, Starting next Tuesday (6/27), the contents of the Heroes for Hire bundles will be changing. Heroes for Hire will now give all players the opportunity to purchase a store offering of a 4-Star character. In addition, the character will follow the Crash of the Titans mission rotation, and is available for the full 5-day duration of the mission. The actual price and bundle contents will not be changing. **Detail Summary:** - The bundle character will be the same character that’s featured in Deadpool’s Daily Quest mission, Crash of the Titans - A preview of the next featured 4-Star character will also be visible - All players will have the opportunity to purchase this bundle - Players that originally saw the 3-Star bundle will now see the 4-Star bundle instead.- The price and bundle contents have not changed. **Update:** Apologies for the confusion everyone. It appears that for today only there will be a different store functionality, before switching to the above mentioned format. If you purchase the Thing bundle, then the next bundle will become available. Here is a list of all the bundles available today, if players purchase them sequentially: **4-Star Bundles** Thing - Yellow Invisible Woman - Blue Carnage - Black Quake - Yellow Iron Fist (Danny Rand) - Green Drax - Purple Nick Fury - Blue **3-Star Bundles** Bullseye (Classic) - Purple Steve Rogers (Super Soldier) - Yellow Sentry - Red The Punisher (Dark Reign) - Black Blade (Daywalker) - Black Wolverine (Patch) - Green Human Torch (Classic) - Green ---
**Author:** ![Stax\_the\_Foyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/stax_the_foyer/32/8501_2.png) [@Stax\_the\_Foyer](https://forums.505go.com/u/Stax_the_Foyer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/2 "2017-06-23T22:42:30Z")
I understand the desire to have it track with the Crash fight to give people an extra boost, but this seems like a disappointment for people waiting for a specific cover/color to come around. Maybe there could be some way to allow them to pick a color? The wait time for the last color of the last character in the rotation is now on the order of 2 years. Now _that’s_ dilution. ---
**Author:** ![Jaedenkaal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jaedenkaal/32/5011_2.png) [@Jaedenkaal](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jaedenkaal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:42pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/3 "2017-06-23T22:42:35Z")
So… the store will now take 5 times longer to rotate once through? Wow, am I glad I bought Quake today, otherwise I’d be waiting **over six months** to get another chance. We should at least get to choose our cover color. This is a 250-day cycle now. 750 days for 3 colors. That’s just unreasonable. ---
**Author:** ![LemmingStampede](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LemmingStampede](https://forums.505go.com/u/LemmingStampede)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/4 "2017-06-23T22:48:00Z")
Definitely not a fan. I actually thought HFH as it currently stood was pretty good. It was a way to get vaulted characters slowly over time. Not super fast, but it was doable. Combined with bonus heroes, it actually made the vaulting palatable to me. Now that the store is going to rotate so slowly, it really doesn’t have anywhere close to as much value as it did before. A very disappointing change imo. I really wish the developers would give us at least some idea of why they make a lot of these changes. The lack of explanation just makes it feel so much worse. ---
**Author:** ![Stax\_the\_Foyer](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/stax_the_foyer/32/8501_2.png) [@Stax\_the\_Foyer](https://forums.505go.com/u/Stax_the_Foyer)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/5 "2017-06-23T22:48:22Z")
There’s a really simple solution that will fully address the concerns of people waiting for a specific color of a specific character. Just make a new Crash run every day. o:) ---
**Author:** ![deadtaco](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/deadtaco/32/2020_2.png) [@deadtaco](https://forums.505go.com/u/deadtaco)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:48pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/6 "2017-06-23T22:48:43Z")
This is a terrible change. The one decent answer to vaulting and it has now been gutted. Dumped the news on a Friday afternoon - they knew this would be bad and this is how you avoid blacklash. ---
**Author:** ![STOPTHIS](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/stopthis/32/4648_2.png) [@STOPTHIS](https://forums.505go.com/u/STOPTHIS)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:51pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/7 "2017-06-23T22:51:18Z")
How do you keep making this worse? As someone who has bought a few of these (all at 3600, btw) the best thing about it was how fast it moved through the **_FIFTY+ CHARACTERS AND COUNTING._** You couldn’t just have reworked the other to make it more predictable, but still keep it daily? It was getting to the point that you have to wait almost 2 months for the character you want to come around again, now someone who needs to finish that 2/5/5 character has to wait a year or so to do it! This is just asinine. ---
**Author:** ![JHawkInc](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jhawkinc/32/4863_2.png) [@JHawkInc](https://forums.505go.com/u/JHawkInc)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:53pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/8 "2017-06-23T22:53:15Z")
Making the Crash character available so people can purchase to attempt the Crash, or to buff a character with a cover to have better odds at the Crash? This is good. Making it take 5x as long to rotate through by making it last longer? This is bad. Why not both? Why not a “Featured 4\*” that’s available for the Crash that week, and then a “Daily 4\*” that rotates like the old store? So any given day, two are available for purchase (but within a 5 day span, only 6 total characters available)? ---
**Author:** ![Brigby](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/brigby/32/6367_2.png) [@Brigby](https://forums.505go.com/u/Brigby)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/9 "2017-06-23T22:54:17Z")
@deadtaco The reason we wanted to provide this news on Friday was not to avoid backlash, but to give players a couple more days to decide if they’d like to take advantage of a current Heroes for Hire opportunity before the update is implemented on Tuesday. ---
**Author:** ![Jaedenkaal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jaedenkaal/32/5011_2.png) [@Jaedenkaal](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jaedenkaal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/10 "2017-06-23T22:57:21Z")
> [@Brigby](#): > > The reason we wanted to provide this news on Friday was not to avoid backlash, but to give players a couple more days to decide if they’d like to take advantage of a current Heroes for Hire opportunity before the update is implemented on Tuesday. Yes, I was thinking that. So, credit where credit is due; **thank you** for giving us more than 12 hours notice on this change 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DyingLegend](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/dyinglegend/32/4255_2.png) [@DyingLegend](https://forums.505go.com/u/DyingLegend)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/11 "2017-06-23T23:11:49Z")
This is kinda dumb in my opinion. I see that you are trying to get people who are desperate to win a crash and to get them on an impulse buy. It’s like the kids selling girl scout cookies outside of the weight watchers. Also this just again exasperates the struggle to earn and cover 4 star heroes. ---
**Author:** ![spatenfloot](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/spatenfloot/32/2306_2.png) [@spatenfloot](https://forums.505go.com/u/spatenfloot)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/12 "2017-06-23T23:15:14Z")
> [@](#): > > You guys made the store even worse! ---
**Author:** ![Bruinsfan17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aeb1de/32.png) [@Bruinsfan17](https://forums.505go.com/u/Bruinsfan17)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:25pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/13 "2017-06-23T23:25:50Z")
Is this gonna lead to a change of the Taco Vault? Seems redundant to have two sources dedicated to the current COTT. Not a fan of the change as it stands. Just keep finding ways to push players away I see. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Jam\_Adams](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cc9497/32.png) [@Jam\_Adams](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jam_Adams)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:26pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/14 "2017-06-23T23:26:19Z")
Unreal. How can you guys expect people to wait 2 years for the store to fully rotate??? ---
**Author:** ![zulux21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/8dc957/32.png) [@zulux21](https://forums.505go.com/u/zulux21)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:33pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/15 "2017-06-23T23:33:10Z")
I really don’t get this. guess they were selling to many heroes for hire with HP people already earn? I thought the clash character should be included, but there is no reason why the original heroes for hire needed to be killed off in order to include the clash character. just continue the cycle like normal, and feature the clash character for 5 days. even better. make it so that you can pick what color cover you want as you buy a cover 😕 I have to assume this is a change that is the result of something else coming… you guys have been quiet for a while (and we know a taco change is coming just not when) so there has to be more to this… as it stands though… THIS IS STUPID! ---
**Author:** ![BatteryHorse](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/batteryhorse/32/3226_2.png) [@BatteryHorse](https://forums.505go.com/u/BatteryHorse)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/16 "2017-06-23T23:38:30Z")
This is a really strange decision. It seems aimed at that narrow segment of players who have a surplus of HP and feel like if they had _just one more cover_ of a particular hero they could beat the crash. So they spend 3600hp and additional ISO so they can improve a 3/2/3 character (for example) enough to beat the crash and get… an LT that will get them one of the current 12 4’s, which you can get a ton of without really trying. And everyone outside of that segment of players, the people for whom one 4\* cover will make no difference because they have few or no covers for that hero, or conversely those who have most or all the needed covers, this change is pointless and punitive. HfH could give out three covers, one in each color. That, at least, would represent enough value that players could make some interesting decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Jaedenkaal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/jaedenkaal/32/5011_2.png) [@Jaedenkaal](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jaedenkaal)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2017, 11:40pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/17 "2017-06-23T23:40:02Z")
> [@BatteryHorse](#): > > This is a really strange decision. It seems aimed at that narrow segment of players who have a surplus of HP and feel like if they had _just one more cover_ of a particular hero they could beat the crash. So they spend 3600hp and additional ISO so they can improve a 3/2/3 character (for example) enough to beat the crash and get… an LT that will get them one of the current 12 4’s, which you can get a ton of without really trying. > > And everyone outside of that segment of players, the people for whom one 4\* cover will make no difference because they have few or no covers for that hero, or conversely those who have most or all the needed covers, this change is pointless and punitive. Well said. ---
**Author:** ![Jsh2014](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df705f/32.png) [@Jsh2014](https://forums.505go.com/u/Jsh2014)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/18 "2017-06-24T00:03:59Z")
And the unreal pointless move of the week goes to the Devs… the frustration that I feel this week with all the cheating stuff the prob I had with the update that CS doesnt seem to care about and now they gonna mess up the only thing that seemed to work right. Work with the players, why don’t they get a focus group of players up and down the player ranks maybe a 100 atleast and just check out these ideas before they do it. It’s just DUMB! ---
**Author:** ![Ayasugi-san](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/ayasugi-san/32/2860_2.png) [@Ayasugi-san](https://forums.505go.com/u/Ayasugi-san)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/19 "2017-06-24T00:15:38Z")
So… This is going to stop all the vaulting defenders from saying that H4H is a reasonable solution to vaulting, right? Because now it isn’t any easier to get a specific cover than pre-vaulting, as pre-vaulting had the single-cover 4\* vaults for the same price. ---
**Author:** ![fmftint](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/fmftint/32/334_2.png) [@fmftint](https://forums.505go.com/u/fmftint)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2017, 12:31am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445/20 "2017-06-24T00:31:58Z")
What do people who want/need a Big Enchilada character 4 star supposed to do now? [Next page](https://forums.505go.com/t/update-to-heroes-for-hire-6-23-17-updated-6-26-17/37445.md?page=2)