To keep smiling.
Keep shining.
Knowing you can always count on them.
For sure.
That’s what 4*'s for.
An elf?
Your 5* privilege is showing. I haven’t champed any 5* and won’t for a while. I have all but about four 4* champed and they work for me just fine.
I mean, he did specifically state that he was asking for the average 5* player’s thoughts. I love a lot of my 4*s, but sadly once you make the jump they’re just not useful in PVP unless they’re maxchamped or close to it. I still break out the good ones for PVE on boost weeks though.
Ah, missed that…
Well… the question seems to answer itself… you use 4s to get to the 5* level, just like you used 3s to get to the 4* level, and so on.
Not a 5-star player myself yet, that transition is looking to be about summer time for me. But the perspective offered in this thread, and from 5-star players in general has been invaluable. It was something that I’ve been on somewhat of an emotional roller-coaster with, because the game has been changing in many ways around it.
First there was the scaling issue, where just having them rostered was a problem because MMR treated them like champed 4s when you may not have been at that level yet. Then there was the matter of actual MMR when you did champ them, because at that point every node that wasn’t trivial/easy became like the 5-star node now in CL9. But then CL-based scaling came out, where you could essentially blow CL7 and CL8 out the water with 5-stars until they made CL9. Then CL9 finally came out, and the rewards are very appropriate for a 4-5 star transitioner. And since CL9 is still so new, it’s very easy to place well. But behind all of this, there’s the looming threat of 5-star MMR in PVP, which was already bad if you didn’t champ the RIGHT 5-stars to start out, but is now even worse with Remy Lebeau’s sheer existence.
I can sit around and delay it all I’d like, but I’m gonna have to make that transition eventually. I didn’t know that I would get to a point where I had an iso “surplus”, the concept in and of itself makes me want to crack up. Good to know that I can always have a good source to hear personal experience on these forums as I’ll need it.
After a certain point, the 5s are all that matters. 4s become something to spend ISO on to get championed, and then you get some cool rewards. Or if you’ve been hoarding and running out of ISO, then you might lose some 4* covers.. no worries though. You’ll get them soon enough.
I did the hoarding thing and got the 3 latest 5s and championed all my 4s. It was fun, but it took me around 6 months of hoarding, which was pretty slow. Now, I basically don’t play any more, so it will take maybe a year or two to do that again. But sometimes I read books on my commute instead, which is pretty cool.
Agree with all of this. The only thing I’d add is that some maxed 4*s may work really nicely with Gambit.
Peggy, Riri and Blade all come immediately to mind, maybe Moon Knight or Cyclops. Particularly interested to see how well Gambit/Carol mesh given she is at present my only 4* at 370 and she’ll be boosted again shortly.
I’m a fairly low level 5* player (4 champs, moved to 5 tier in the last couple months).
Once I champed my second 5*, the 4s simply became resources like 3s and 2s. I have 44 champs between 315 and 273, I almost never dust them off outside of PVE trivial nodes. Boosted, I’d still rather use almost any pairing of my 5s.
That being said, the recent trends of 4* PVP and having 4* feed 5* directly means that a few of them will still have that value. I like getting to play these characters, and these PVP events are making me use and fight actual 4s, not the loaner-fests of a release event. I had a ton of fun last season with Medusa, Gamora, and Vulture events. Fighting those HUGE Medusas was an interesting experience and a fun challenge. Much more than the bazillionth run of 3Cyke or the other 3*.
The problem is that a better analogy is that instead of adding another piston to the engine, instead of constantly going to look at the parts shop, you’re much better off just riding your existing car into the ground, while you scrimp and save for multiple years to buy a new one.
I’m glad it’s not just me, thank you all for for input
My advice to 4* players looking to transition would be to chase 5* Gambit like mad till he leaves latest
If you fully cover him do your transition, but if you don’t stay in 4* till Gambit is fixed or new break breaker comes.
Hoard LT and CP and enjoy variety of your 4*. I sure miss using them.
Guess it would make it hard to be a hybrid in that case, as you need 5* for top rank in PVE and need Gambit or 4* cap for PvP.
They are the only way how to get to 5s trough promoting rewards.
You can try to avoid 4s completely, and go straight for 5s, but it will take you much much longer without CPs/LTs/5s from promoting 4*s.
Plus powered 4* can almost compete with maxed 5*, not mentioning some sick 4* combos that have no equivalent/substitute in 5* pool.
But it’s so much more fun checking out the new parts and building an engine that will trundle you on to your destination faster!
(Farms really are a thing. I have cycles when my 5s grow fast and cycles where they are slow and it all depends on the stage my 3-4s are at.)
You make a good point, and I have run the 4* instead of Thanos on occasion, especially during my climb.
Riri’s blue with red charged tiles could be a lot of fun, and Marvel doesn’t have color overlap with the purple and red. Blade and even Coulson might be nice additions.
The challenge is with someone like Mordo, whose best power is in purple and you can never use it in that combo. Or HB with his red.
As someone who has 9 championed 5* I still use boosted 4* in PVE and occasionally early in PVP. Usually 4* powers still pair better with 5* even as a 3rd.
Last pvp I had fun using HB to generate red with blue and black and add strike tiles to let Gambit spam to his hearts content. 
Bobby being his crazy bobby self was fun too.
I have no 5s, but I have a ripe hoard and will transition in the next week or two. I’m primarily a lazy SCL7 pve player who doesn’t go for placement. I like playing with the varied teams that 4 offers, not necessarily just using boosted 4*s to blast through (unless I’m busy on a given day).
I kind of imagined I’d continue doing more or less the same after I get some 5s, where I’d stick to SCL7 (maybe 8?) and still use my 4s mostly, only trotting out the 5s on hard nodes or when I’m short on time. Is this unrealistic? Will I get addicted to the speed and power of my 5s and not want to use the 4s? I get that 4s don’t generally have much value in pvp, but they seem pretty viable (and funhancing) in pve, provided you’re not gunning for placement or running SCL9.
Yeah, I kind of have a similar feeling: not interested in 5s when they were released, now and probably in the future. As a non-competitive player, I enjoy so much playing with my 3s and 4*s that I don’t feel the need of them.
I had good times with my 3s. I enjoyed playing weird teams like Blade/Cage/Falcon. I had fun with my 4s too. Played with them for more than a year. Now I enjoy playing with 5s. We all spent a ton of times playing with 4s before moving on.
I just wish they really started to make the 5* better and move away from more 4s. There’s too many now as it is. Make 5 easier to get and make more of them. But then that leads to 6*s, I guess.
I am a strong proponent of boosting more 4* on a weekly basis, if not only for the fact that there are so many of them now. I have over 45 champed and many of them just lie dormant on my roster.
I would also like to see the flow of 4* covers increased.