# What is a "veteran" player? **URL:** \ **Category:** MPQ General Discussion\ **Created:** [August 22, 2019, 1:10pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559 "2019-08-22T13:10:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Pants1000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/22d042/32.png) [@Pants1000](https://forums.505go.com/u/Pants1000)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 3:40am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/41 "2019-08-24T03:40:10Z")
Just to throw a random line out there, I say anyone with a champed OML is a veteran (or anyone that had one and sold it when he was nerfed). I’m not serious, obviously there are people without a champed OML that qualify, but when I see a roster with some champed 5’s, but only 1 or 2 covers on their OML and Surfer I consider them a newbie. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rod5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/rod5/32/9307_2.png) [@Rod5](https://forums.505go.com/u/Rod5)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 7:08pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/42 "2019-08-25T19:08:13Z")
> [@Neuromancer](#): > > > [@Sm0keyJ0e](#): > > > > > [@Bowgentle](#): > > > > > > > [@CT1888](#): > > > > > > > > If you never had rubber banding you can’t call yourself a veteran > > > > _shakes fist at clouds_ > > > > > > I see your rubber banding and raise you 3 attempts on offense in PVP. > > > > I see your 3 attempts on offense in PVP and raise you environment tiles. > > I see your environment tiles and raise you 1 +20% Damage to Mutants boost. I see your damage to mutants boost and raise you Sentrybombing ---
**Author:** ![DAZ0273](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/daz0273/32/8390_2.png) [@DAZ0273](https://forums.505go.com/u/DAZ0273)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 7:21pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/43 "2019-08-25T19:21:52Z")
> [@](#): > > > [@Rod5](#): > > > > > [@Neuromancer](#): > > > > > > > [@Sm0keyJ0e](#): > > > > > > > > > [@Bowgentle](#): > > > > > > > > > > > [@CT1888](#): > > > > > > > > > > > > If you never had rubber banding you can’t call yourself a veteran > > > > > > _shakes fist at clouds_ > > > > > > > > > > I see your rubber banding and raise you 3 attempts on offense in PVP. > > > > > > > > I see your 3 attempts on offense in PVP and raise you environment tiles. > > > > > > I see your environment tiles and raise you 1 +20% Damage to Mutants boost. > > > > I see your damage to mutants boost and raise you Sentrybombing > > Can you use a different thread for this? This is a discussion about what the term “veteran” means in terms of Marvel Puzzle Quest not a…nah…I can’t do it…go ahead with your thread drift. 😀 ---
**Author:** ![Rod5](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/rod5/32/9307_2.png) [@Rod5](https://forums.505go.com/u/Rod5)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2019, 7:57pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/44 "2019-08-25T19:57:19Z")
My two cents: I think that a genuine vet is someone who has played significantly in every tier, who has a good understanding of all of the major game dynamics including PvP collaboration, MMR, PvE strategies etc. Realistically this is almost certainly going to be someone who is playing top-end/has played top-end 5\* PvP and can play any CL in PvE. This generally ends up being players who’ve passed 4-5 years, and by default it kind of excludes more recent whales/folk who bypass tiers (why would you anyway?). ---
**Author:** ![thedarkphoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8e7dd6/32.png) [@thedarkphoenix](https://forums.505go.com/u/thedarkphoenix)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 3:38pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/45 "2019-08-26T15:38:10Z")
Having over 2000 days played… ---
**Author:** ![shinnaruto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/shinnaruto/32/3499_2.png) [@shinnaruto](https://forums.505go.com/u/shinnaruto)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2019, 4:54pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/46 "2019-08-26T16:54:39Z")
I think if you have 2 years, you are a vet. You have seen the anniversary come around twice at that point. making it 2000 is like making a whole new tier: Methuselah level ---
**Author:** ![beyonderbub](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/beyonderbub/32/4275_2.png) [@beyonderbub](https://forums.505go.com/u/beyonderbub)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/47 "2019-08-27T16:58:10Z")
I’d like to consider myself a vet. That does not equate to an “expert”. I spent my first 3+ years playing haphazardly (with no focus on progession, placement, resource hoarding) in a casual friendly alliance. I just built my roster evenly (no concentrating resources on meta characters) and played with no schedule whenever I felt like it. Eventually found my way into a top alliance family who showed me the “ropes” and took my game to another level in 2 years of optimal play, strategic roster building and resource hoarding. Any to this day, I’m still learning from others who pay attention to in game details and share in our alliance chats. I can’t believe it’ll be close to 6 years next MPQ anniversary. ---
**Author:** ![Vhailorx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e79b87/32.png) [@Vhailorx](https://forums.505go.com/u/Vhailorx)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2019, 5:47pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/48 "2019-08-30T17:47:26Z")
There is obviously a lot of variation in how people use the terms, but I think in general people say “whale” to mean “people who have spent a significant amount of money on the game” and “veteran” to mean “people who have a played the game enough to have a decent understanding of all of its various systems and meta-systems.” Those things are all subjective of course, so your “substantial amount of money” or “decent understanding” might not be the same as mine. I think it’s hard to be a “vet” at all if you are still in the 1\*-3\* space (and reached 3\* land after ~ March 2015) because the 4\*/5\* endgame has so many unique quirks, both in gameplay and meta-systems. But 4\* players, especially those with huge 4\* rosters that choose to soft cap, can see most of what the game has to offer if they want, so I am sure that there are lots of such players that would qualify as “vets.” It’s also important to remember that no one person really has a full understanding of the entire game experience anymore. I started in 2014, and haven’t been HP/roster slot limited since 2015. It would be pretty hard for me to claim much meaningful experience with the current state of play for 1\*-3\* rosters, even though I worked my roster up the old-fashioned way, with 2:24 refresh timers (wasn’t it some odd length like that?), unlimited shielding, and only 5 healthpacks (plus it was uphill, through the snow both ways!). Similarly, the uber-whales and level 525+ crowd can’t really claim much meaningful experience with life as a mid-iter 5\* player like me, let alone a baby seal. . . ---
**Author:** ![Cactus\_Jack\_87](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/cactus_jack_87/32/8578_2.png) [@Cactus\_Jack\_87](https://forums.505go.com/u/Cactus_Jack_87)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2019, 4:28pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/49 "2019-09-03T16:28:00Z")
@DAZ0273 your post inspired me, so I came up with a list that may be too extensive to share here, so here’s a shameless plug! [https://forums.505go.com/discussion/79597/you-might-be-a-veteran-player-if/p1?new=1](https://forums.505go.com/discussion/79597/you-might-be-a-veteran-player-if/p1?new=1) ---
**Author:** ![111MCH111](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex023/user_avatar/forums.505go.com/111mch111/32/5093_2.png) [@111MCH111](https://forums.505go.com/u/111MCH111)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2019, 1:29pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/50 "2019-10-12T13:29:25Z")
In my opinion most veterans have 2\* and 3\* farm, lots of 4\* champs and at least one cover in each 5\*. And they are willing and capable to advice other, newer players. ---
**Author:** ![maguirenumber6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/3d9bf3/32.png) [@maguirenumber6](https://forums.505go.com/u/maguirenumber6)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2019, 3:42am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/51 "2019-10-14T03:42:10Z")
> [@spatenfloot](#): > > > [@peterdark](#): > > > > I mis-read the title as “what is a vegetarian player” 😑 > > Someone who hasn’t rostered Spider-Ham And avoids “Meat” Rocket and Groot… ---
**Author:** ![Ptahhotep](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c37758/32.png) [@Ptahhotep](https://forums.505go.com/u/Ptahhotep)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 1:33am UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/52 "2019-10-15T01:33:55Z")
A true veteran is someone for whom MPQ has existed for less than half the time that they have been playing various incarnations of puzzle quest. ---
**Author:** ![Phumade](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Phumade](https://forums.505go.com/u/Phumade)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2019, 2:51pm UTC](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559/53 "2019-10-15T14:51:34Z")
> [@Ptahhotep](#): > > > [@](#): > > > > A true veteran is someone for whom MPQ has existed for less than half the time that they have been playing various incarnations of puzzle quest. > > I ve played PQ1 and 2 plus galactrix. I loved miniquest craft challenges. Matchino 4 to create chests that get match 3 was a quick run match that was my fav part of game. Galactic was confusing. The hexagonal board and changing gravity was challenging. Plus the complexity of ship types was hard to manage. And it wasn’t always clear how you upgraded your roster to handle those threats. I beat the campaign but I have no idea about building teams and just broot forced it. Pq2 was okay but the interface was much more confusing. Way more rpg than match 3 [Previous page](https://forums.505go.com/t/what-is-a-veteran-player/50559.md?page=2)