I find they’re better for actual discussion too. You can actually take your time to explain your thoughts in more than 140 characters. I used to enjoy the small bits of info the devs would give about the changes they were making and why they were making them.
If only we had some kind of moderators to curve that kind behavior…
Put yourself in a developer’s shoes. Would you post on these forums if every thing you say would be attacked, disputed, and tried to be proven false multiple times?
The developers have no reason to interact with the customers. They can code MPQ? Then if/when the game fails they’ll either code a new game for their company or get fired and interview and get a job with another company.
They’re paid employees. Some are probably passionate about MPQ. Others are probably not. They’re passionate about making money for themselves and/or their dependents.
The passionate ones are too busy fixing every issue in the game they can, because they love the game. The others could care less if Dakens power fires twice as long as their checks keep coming in.
Forum posts from the devs must be vetted (to some degree) and carefully worded. Back and forth is minimal at best. We get announcements and “I’ll check into that” here. But that’s to be expected.
Even if history is lost, what’s here needs to be official and considered, while it is here.
At one point there was very little to NO update on small or major game changes and no interactions at all, they heard the request from the forum to have a warning and updates and actually have been doing so. Then they added a in game help and alerts so the forums warnings are really just them being courteous.
But of course that wasn’t enough and now has snow balled into complaining INSTANTLY and a ton of negativity its almost pointless for a dev to post in this forum because anything they say can and will be used against them and dissected word by word.
On reddit or discord they can “talk” or “leak” or mention how they feel about something without it being used against them or the company over and over again.
For things like this, it’s often good to look at other games. Marvel Heroes has 2 official forums (last I looked, one for PC and one for console), and the Developers regularly post there. There’s interaction, sure there are still jerks on there too, but the Mods deal with it, or the posts are ignored. They play online with players relatively regularly, and answer questions as they do - they answered a couple of my questions when they were on their one time, it’s very open.
I miss Developers posting on here, I miss their videos. I agree some people on here complain far too much, in a negative way, and it would put me off if I were a Developer.
I enjoy these forums. I think there are a lot of cool people here. Smart people. The best part of these forums are the Tips & Guides/Roster Help and the Character Discussion/Details sections. That’s where people actually talk about the game in a meaningful way and help each other progress. General Discussion is 90% nonsense and I self-filter quite a bit of it out, but that’s common for any forum I’ve ever participated in - the ‘main’ forum is full of complaints and ‘what’s your favorite color’ polls, while the interesting discussions happen in sub-forums.
This makes it sound like Discord is this secret society where all the information from the game is given.
It’s a handful of friendly people discussing the game with the occasional chime in to tell us to check the forums for news, or clarification on a power/bug.
And as aesth said, it’s real time, which makes it much more ideal for discussion.
When you treat your customers (last I checked, that’s what we are) like petulent children who are to be ignored, you’ve lost the right to complain about the atmosphere on your official forums.
I spend entirely too much time on that Discord channel (the mods there are total tyrants with no redeeming qualities) and I can say there’s not really any scooping going on. All of the news is presented as links to the News & Announcement threads the moment they happen. Any ‘scoops’ are from people finding the Piecing Together article before a post or finding 5 Thor in-game before a post on the forums goes up. You’ll get some response to bug reports in real-time, on occasion, but that’s not as thrilling as you imagine!
This is why I stalk the Discord channel. This and the rather entertaining banter that goes on there. GIFs I’ve never seen nor will ever find on my own (seriously, though, is there some GIF repository I just don’t know about?). I stalk, because if I don’t I will never get any work done, and that isn’t a very good thing to happen in a call center!