Am I the Only One Tired of the Complaining?

People are not expecting things to be handed to them, but in the case of this 4* DDQ they were expecting it to fit along similar lines to the other ones i.e. you would need a quality 3* team in order to get a 4* rather than it deciding to skip that stage and be more of a 4* to 5* transition tool.

The problem with the idea of progress being slow means you don’t get burned out is that the barrier to entry increases as time goes by and thus people are more likely to become frustrated and leave rather than anything else, it is not like they separate 2-3* from 4* when it comes to pvp so that route to progress becomes steadily less accessible.

The token itself IS the transition from 4->5*. It’s literally (aside from whaling 40 packs) the only way to do so. So yes, its introduction to DDQ is to create an additional bridge for that transition. The side effect is another cover available to those going 3->4.

But that’s sort of my point. At most it represents one cover every 5 days. It’s not a (direct) means to 4* transition, nor is missing it because you’re underleveled a death knell to said transition.

Right now there are 4-5 easily obtainable covers (1000, PvE) per week, plus 3 additional (1300) for those able to reach that plateau. Odds on regular tokens I’m assuming will go up to ~5% (last upgrade went from 2.3 to 3.45, another 50% increase is 5.175). That means 9 tokens a week will equate to another cover every 2 weeks. Plus PvE tokens. Plus the 2000 in Sim (which is super easy) and the new 10k (a gimme to anyone seriously thinking about the 4* transition). Plus Anniversary week is coming, and you know the odds will be more generous. And there are at least passing remarks about a 4* PvP (or PvP with top 100 4* rewards as it were ).

And that’s already a pretty massive difference than even 3 months ago (before the 1300 was introduced). Again, you can argue whether even this is enough, but given the need to ensure people don’t bypass the 2 or 3* progression (without whaling), I think they’ve done more than ok balancing out accessibility across all tiers.

I like this game a lot, I like the additions made to it, I like the structure of it.

What I don’t like is playing for nearly two years, scraping together a few three stars and most of one four star, being excited to try and earn a legendary, and getting murdered. XF is my only legitimate 4 star, all of my others are 4 covers or less. I know Cyclops is one of the best three stars but it just sets a precedent and makes you feel like your hard work and all the time you’ve spent isn’t worth anything, and the only way to truly advance is to buy your way up.

I mean, I was expecting it to be difficult, and pretty much impossible for my one or two covered guys, but my one semi-legitimate threat gets one shot? It’s just demoralizing.

I’m not going to quit over it or anything, but it’s still disappointing.

dont know what you mean by game isnt one that burns out quickly your dead wrong with that..

those who have all of the 3 stars max covered (may not be 166 level) and can not get up to the 1300 pts in PVP. The only way you can get the cover is double the progression rewards in PVE, Now how long is it going to be before these people say 7 day grind to get 1 4 star cover is not worth it.

i need very little 3 star covers and only way im getting the 4 stars is double progression what is not worth it.. i did it for hulk took 5 days got Black kingpin BIG WOOP.

would i grind 5 days if i knew it was for black kingpin hell no.

the ranking is now going to get so wide that unless more ways to play are added this game will never see year 3 annivery party..

how they can make it better

1… no more 7 day events just 4 and 3 days What would give people 2 4 star a week min

2.. make PVE progression season wise say top 100 teams in season PVE get token

3.. maybe in the off season DO a Ultron type event where it hands out a token in the 5th round (would be a 3 day thing)

1 round Normal token
round 2 normal token
round 3 normal
round 4 normal
round 5 leg token
round 6 3 star
round 7 3 star cover
round 8 3 star cover

what all teams should get given out 1 4 star to everyone once a season would not kill the game.

Don’t forget the premium awards given out to only a select few just to stay away from the forums.

#4 just give a full set of 4* covers to each and every person that logs in

Baffles me, tbh. What’s wrong with “1* or higher” as a definition? It’s true. It’s not like saying “1*, 2* or 3*” manages expectations more so than “1* or higher”.
You could make the same argument that people would expect 3s despite a low percentage. Heck, I count myself lucky if I find a 2 in there most days =S

1* or higher will mean people complaining they didn’t pull a SS even though they bought 1000 standsrd tokens !!!1

wait and see but this is what really hut the game and maybe even kiill this game

right now player has a Good 3 star team but cant get to 1300 to get the token.. they are facing nothing but a wall of 3 star max teams. In 2 to 3 months they will be facing nothing but a wall of 4 star teams or even 5 star meaning Good by high ranks in pvp good bye anything and they will leave the game. simple as that.

what i really feel sorry for is the 2 star trying to merger into 3 stars, with the double progression in PVE that just tons more players into the PVE meaning its going to be harder for them to even get 3 stars

i know they are adding more stuff cause people with max out 3 saying they have nothing to play for. BUT who is putting more REAL Cash into this game these people who have max out 3 star/4 star or newbies coming into the game..

for the short term its going to be the vets buying shields BUT what happens in 3 to 4 months when the vets who spend money have their 4 star max

So now you have these god like players who have 4 star teams max just crushing 3 stars and under… You will see tons of newbies leave the game cause they will say
there is no way they can play any longer… Like said befoer the only way to fix this is two pvp

1 anyone
2.. 3 stars and under

What’s smart about this is that if you say it about every single change, it stands to reason you might be right eventually.

Pretty much this. You’d be shocked at the number of people that write in to support complaining about their inability to somehow beat odds a Vegas bookie wouldn’t take. Those amazingly vanishing odds are there for a reason, they’re a woohoo bonus, not an expectation.

Couple of 4*'s from STANDARD tokens in a month? Wtf are you talking about. I know ONE person who got a 4* from standard. I’ve been playing for a year and have NEVER done it.

Eh…suppose it makes more sense now we have 5*s.
For some reason that hadn’t occured to me. Good point.

sooner or latter my toast will pop icon_e_smile.gif

So people who have no interest in PVP aren’t ready to start collecting 4*s?

Cool.

Then buy some tokens or packs. Grind progression in pve. Or send a ticket to support saying you should get free 4* covers since you don’t play PvP. Though if you gave PvP a real effort I’d think you’d like it. Other than DDQ it takes the least amount of time to get the best rewards.

I never said I didn’t play PVP.

You can collect covers sure. Your transition will take an eternity, and one DDQ node doesn’t change that either.

Hmm, OK my fault. Sorry my reading comprehension is off. Plese then elaborate. I’m quite certain many other than me would interpret the following statement as not playing PvP.

Please no spin, just finished watching the Republican debate so had my fill of spin and bs.

Cool.

You have the literal worse logic I’ve seen in a long time on the internet.

but to your credit you aren’t alone in this thread,II’m just sick of this strawman at this point.

On what planet does " I DONT ENJOY THIS GAMES PLAYER VS PLAYER" translate to “GIVE ME”

Like what sort of languages do you speak?
What sort of logic problems do you deal with on a day to day basis?
What sort of problem solving skills do you have if any?
Do you jump in front of the train if the bus is late?

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as a cover all, you guys can’t argue these two things together

DDQ 4 star is for 5 star transitioners

if you can’t beat that, get 10,000 in pvp in a season, or get double progression in pve.

Do you not see the flaw in logic of ‘hey its not for you’ to ‘hey earn it another way’

And don’t pretend people opening a pack with a 95% chance at 4 stars are looking solely for silver surfer.

If everything is fine with the game to you guys, let people complain and enjoy the game.

The issue is less I can’t beat it, and more hey people have been asking for an ease on the 4 star transition for months, and you ignore them to implement a 5 star transition for 1 character?

It would have been just as easy to make legendaries, 95% 1-4 star, and 5% SS.
It’s very clear why people have issue with it, if you don’t fine. but why ruin your day and ruin your enjoyment over other people who all agree with eachother