Yeah guys. How DARE you complain about cards being broken when there was ANOTHER unrelated broken card that got nerfed. There couldn’t possibly be TWO broken cards out there. I think all of you are just being selfish considering that ONE card was already nerfed. Isn’t that enough for you? Can’t you just appreciate that ONE card was nerfed and never complain about any other cards in the future forever?
Take a hint from paper magic, yugioh or any other competitive card game out there. OBVIUSLY black locus/pot of greed needed to be banned, but CLEARLY no other card ever needed to be banned and there DEFINATLY isnt a huge ban list with like 50 cards so stop whining about any other cards ever.
I’ve lost more times to my phone dying than any loops, so clearly its not an issue.
my omniscience is sitting on the bench unused because i have better complementary cards to use in my decks.
if omniscience is nerfed, it is actually better for me as it removes potential one-shot kill decks as my ai opponents (omniscience > deploy > pigs/olivias/desotwins.
And it removes a powerful card from my human competitors from their decks for events.
hmm…on second thoughts…Octagon, Please NERF Omniscience till it is on par with the current Torrential Gearhulk. Thanks.
yes it is. it was so wonderfully balanced that as my first mythic kaladesh card pulled in my first kaladesh premium pack, it is still sitting un-used today. and probably will in the near future too.
I think this issue goes back to the infinite cycling thread from a while ago (and here at some point).
If the AI cannot effectively use a card, should it be nerfed? Baral needed to go because the AI could start the infinity with him easily, and same with Gonti (and the Electrostatic Pummeler, remember).
Cycling can never be used by the AI, and Omniscience only works under very specific and rare circumstances (I’ve already faced a few and never lost to one). Is it really worth the nerf? I’d say yes (to all of them), but it may not be a top priority right now
Look, the AI should be able to use everything a little bit. Like it should be able to cycle, but not more than 1 or 2 cards. It should cycle things it can’t see a use for (the actual normal reason for cycling!)
Infinite loops need to be stopped if possible. In some way. Like with omniscience you could add “This cannot be reinforced or played if in play” which would stop Whir of invention boosting it back up.
I went perfect without Omniscience.
I don’t think it should be nerved because Greg could not pilot the machine properly, but baral din’t need a pilot.
And Omni is a masterpiece, not a real common problem. Masterpiece should be something special, even if they are broken. Ornithopter for instance, is far away from broken and should be a rare or below.
But maybe I change my mind if Omni is more common in this Game.
Exactly. It is not a function of who lost to what loop or what other cards are also broken. Balance is required for a good game and there are lots of unbalanced cards. Omniscience is just at the very top of the list. And I didn’t have a chance against the deck any more than playing against Baral 1.0. He played omniscience and I died that same turn..
I can’t remember which walker @gunmix25 but unless I am experimenting I usually play Nahiri M/Th Kiora T/F and Sorin on W. I think I was running Kiora that day. (Guess I could have cast iWill… so yeah, totally balanced.. my bad.)
@babar3355 Just curious, because one round of 4 AotSS could only kill off a limited number of PW in one turn. Regardless though, what you experienced is still very OP because that could have happened again the next turn so to speak.
And here is the problem. Eventually enough people will have the card and the complaints will just get louder. Why not address the problem now while it’s still pretty rare? They have an opportunity to do the right thing before it gets worse.
wow i could scrape the sarcasm off that post and smear it on several other topics just to even it out a bit lol. i personally haven’t had it happen to me much not even as much as when baral came out, not saying it doesn’t happen just hasnt to me.
So perhaps the problem isnt a huge as people suggest? not a lot of them out there, but if everytime you see it played it causes a loops and loss then it should be adjusted at least a bit
Speaking of rare yet frustrating, a well-constructed Baral/imminent Doom deck will kill you within a turn or two. It was a card that was mostly overlooked when it went on sale, even by myself, who debated on whether or not to buy it. I ended up not buying it, but now seeing the kind of combos you can pull off with it… You will feel exactly the same way as you did when you first got destroyed by Baral 1.0.
My Imminent Doom deck has Baral and Locust God. I hear it’s depressing to play against. It was one of the three cards I bought from the set (I don’t allow myself more than 3) (Note I have Omniscience and this is one of the decks it does not work well in) https://imgur.com/gallery/YWfov
