Cheaty AI?

I know, I know, another whinge thread. Actually, this is a battlestory with a twist, since I’m fairly certain the AI just cheated me.

The scenario:

Thor tourney.
Opposing team OBW/Punisher/Thor.
My team OBW/Patch/Thor.

Opposing OBW is 3/5/5 and on the last turn, matched purple to reach 8 AP.

My OBW is 4/5/4 (because I’m transitioning between builds, but I’m not going to buy covers and she works as well as I need her to). She’s covering Black, Blue and Purple. I match purple to steal that important 1 AP.

Opposing OBW uses Aggressive Recon anyway.

So, what happened? The opposing team did not match 5 and collect an extra purple AP, just simply used an ability without the requisite amount.

are you sure it was a 3/5/5 OBW?
the 2 cover aggressive recon only cost 7AP

Yup, first thing I did at the start of the match was check the tooltip for its AR - it read 8 AP.

How much purple ap did you already have before that last match and how did the ai get all of their purple?

Stretching my memory a bit here.

Enemy had exactly 8, so I will assume that was gained from 2 separate match 3’s + Espionage.

Hmm, but after my match, I had 4 AP. This was my second purple match for the game.

That means:

I matched 3 previously.
Enemy matched 3 on 2 separate occasions, stealing 1 purple each time. This puts me on 1 purple and enemy on 8.
I matched 3, with BW having highest purple strength and 4 points in Espionage and did not steal.

Blergh. What a terrible situation. I should probably raise a ticket and report it as a possible bug, but that looks like a “no repro” to me.

For IceIX/Devs,

How would you like me to report this?
My team was
“guest” Thor (effective level 23, 1/0/0)
Patch (level 129, 3/5/5)
oBW (level 77, 4/5/4)

My opponent’s team was
“guest” Thor (effective level 23, 1/0/0)
Punisher (level 100-141, sorry I can’t be more specific; was definitely 100+ and definitely not capped. Didn’t check covers, assume 3/5/5)
oBW (level 85, 3/5/5)

The rest of the scenario is described above. My suspicion would be a bug in Espionage at rank 4 - I would imagine that the 4/5/4 build represents a very small use case for oBW.

You’re probably misremembering how much AP they had.

I think that too. It’s too easy to overlook it as AI’s AP display is refreshed only when it passes the turn. If there is a cascade and multiple ability use you may see old figures for a minute.

Yeah, wish it would update it as it goes. You can watch the icons that flash when abilities come available which is updated even when the point totals isn’t.

loving the sig icon_e_wink.gif

Why is Veikka in your sig twice? Importance or weight?

Haha i was changing it around for new members and my computer decided to throw a fit and mess everything up before shutting down. Stupid Dell. So now i have to wait for my laptop to get fixed before i can change. Good spot though, nobody else noticed lol

I’ve another issues with OBW in PvP.

I faced a mirror team C.Storm 85/OBW 85/“Featured hero”

Both OBW and C.Storm has same damage on Blue. For whatever reason my Blue were storm tiles, hence Espionage didn’t trigger (OBW 3/5/5) however OBW on the other team did trigger Espionage on Blue. WHAT GIVES?

I know people are going to be like “Do you remember correctly?” and “YES, I do” because I wouldn’t have noticed it otherwise.

I ask that people keep an eye out for this next time you face anyone using this setup.

How were the teams set up? Who was in the middle-left-right slots, or on the boost screen what was the order of the players?

For tile ownership if number is the same the tiebreaker is the position in team: center, left, right.