The slice you choose will affect your MMR and the opponents you see, but SCL doesn’t. AFAIK SCL really only affects placement, so I don’t get why you’re comparing about SCL7 vs. SCL9.
I feel bad tapping people multiple times, but when I’m trying to hit 900 and I’m seeing the same 4 people over and over again, I’m going to keep going for the same targets, especially if there’s one that much easier to beat than the others. I try not to tap more than 3x because I hate it when it happens to me. But that’s just how PVP is, and there aren’t any hard and fast rules so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
You’re crazy. When I show up for a basketball game and see the other team is not as skilled as we are, I immediately forfeit and leave because it would be unsportsmanlike to go out there and compete against them.
Because responding in a reciprocal way means I’m a troll?
I’m absolutely okay with a difference of perspective as long as people are expressing their differences in a respectful manner with the intent to benefit expanded learning.
If I am mistaken and somebody corrects me–thanks! If I’m mistaken and somebody calls me a two-wheeled tricycle…remind me again–who benefits? Right!
I’m about positive forces for change–no time for naysayers and negative nancies. Sorry–but not sorry if that bothers you.
Dude, seriously thanks for your feedback and time finding that link. I will check it out and in the spirit of not derailing this thread–I will PM you more info.
First of all, can we please stop taking about 1000 person brackets. This isn’t PVE. In PVP brackets are 500 people.
Now we when you enter a slice, that’s is what determines who you can fight. Anyone that has joined the same timeslot can be fought by you and you by them. Who can see who is determined by Match Making Rating. MMR is a combination of your team roster and your current score relative to the other people in the slice. You can see different teams when at different scores. Your MMR would offer you 5star teams, and you would be offered to other 5 star teams. Your team however is a tasty snack for most other 5star teams.
What scl you choose only has an effect on what your rewards table is and in who you are in a bracket with for placement rewards. People tend to spread out across Scl7-9 because there’s just aren’t enough brackets for competitive players. So yes, you will still see big rosters in your Scl7 bracket. Some rosters even intentionally choose a lower scl because they don’t need/want the 4star rewards and want to leave spots in higher scl for their alliance mates.
There is plenty of advice that can be given, but the forum really isn’t the best place for it. Talk to your alliance family via your preferred chat app. It’s easier to hold a conversation there.
By leveling your undercovered 5* as high as you did, you asked the game to treat you/match you against other 5*, who are well covered. When matched with 2 options, which give a similar reward/points, many will choose the easier, and thereby faster, option. Whether that is good game design or not, is another discussion.
People are trying to explain how the game actually works to you
Try running Thanos instead of Black Bolt, he and Gambit are a quite effective combo, and since your Thanos is way better than your Bolt you might get better results that way. It’s not quite as fast as Gambolt, but people may be less inclined to hit Thanos at least.
haha, sure! I wasn’t aware that A. there was a different limit and B. it made your hair stand on-end.
Like I have already stated previously, I’m not exactly in the know but learning a lot from the people with constructive feedback in this thread. The fact that a lot of “trade secrets” are shared around in LINE App and treated like “insider trading information” should give you guys a reasonable expectation that many people outside of those circles don’t know this stuff.
I will only apologize for speaking out of ignorance once before I can remind you that I didn’t know.
That much of the pertinent details aren’t available, except in random snippets, scattered intermittently through various posts on this forum should clearly betray that it is problematic for players trying to climb higher but struggle if they don’t know all this stuff. The problems are multi-fold. That all info isn’t in one coherent location, and the link @OJSP shared is really good, albeit dated, isn’t even stickied.
Thanks for elaborating on how the MMR works.
And I do agree that my team is a “tasty snack,” I saw Hayeks termed it the “juicy queue.” It can’t be helped by me until I get more covers tho.
To clarify: in a given slice–we might find players from multiple SCLs in the target pool???
I am feeling kinda inspired to compile a lot of this information into one source that can at least serve as a launchpad for new players interested in taking the plunge, as Hayeks stated–the more players with points the easier it is to climb–Reaganomics works!
I’d hate to do it without a sticky being on the table–anybody know the score with how to go about getting stuff stickied? Why isn’t Hayeks’ guide stickied??
I get that you’re trying to point your hypocrisy stick but I already admitted I avoid hitting people I think have weaker rosters. Most of my targets are usually 5* champs.
Nice try but that hypocrisy stick is more like a wet noodle.
Don’t beat yourself up for it tho–at least you tried.
I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe your initial comments weren’t trying to imply I was outright rejecting a difference of opinion. That really isn’t the case, I respect others entitlement to a difference of perspective since we all walk different paths. I do take exception when others won’t afford me the same courtesy tho–make sense? I try to play nice with others and I expect the same–simple golden rule.
You stated that I appeared to not be “happy” with responses; while you’re entitled to your opinion–A. I don’t see how happiness is relevant or has any bearing in the tone of my responses B. I have expressed gratitude (arguably a hallmark of “happiness”) to many responders for their constructive feedback.
I also wanted to respond to you since you took the time to respond to me.
So if I responded unkind-like–apologies. I don’t try to rub people the wrong way but if people wanna come at me with no manners then I have no problems responding in kind either.
I also understand that not everybody can articulate themselves with the graceful art of diplomacy at the same time, so again–apologies if I came at you with the wrong tone.
To clarify, the SCL you play in makes no difference to the targets you’ll see in a given slice. The only thing that counts is roster strength/MMR.
In an old alliance we had someone with 490+ 5s accidentally join SCL1 (for a whole season ) He could still only queue other 5 teams, who were almost exclusively in SCL6-8. But I believe he did get season #1 by a fairly wide margin.
MMR is still somewhat of a mystery however from my experience I can tell you that I saw a change at level 390 then level 420 then the big one at 450.
We know that it takes into account at least your top three character levels ,and boosted character levels are supposed to be taken into account as well, although that is debatable .
I remember when I first champed thanos he was my first 5* champion my second highest character was a 4* around level 285 boosted to let’s say 375 or so , PvP was a breeze I was taking down big 4* teams and rarely saw a team with more than one 5* champ and never over level 455.
Then I leveled panther to 420 and boom dual 5* teams 80% of the time, plus I was getting hit by level 460 5* teams and all of a sudden It got a lot harder to hit 1200 . Going from 900 to 1200 was tough I just wasn’t finding targets I could beat quickly .
Now I have a full 5* roster with 7 champs and PvP is pretty smooth depending on which slice and what my goals are , but MMR is still pretty stingy and often have to skip dozens of times to find a target that I haven’t already hit . In my opinion the MMR is and always has been the biggest problem with PVP
) He could still only queue other 5 teams, who were almost exclusively in SCL6-8. But I believe he did get season #1 by a fairly wide margin.