The ChaHulk meta

[atomzed]

The unkillable Chasm-Hulks meta is upon us. I been seeing them in sims, but in pvp, they are becoming common too. Even when not max champ, it’s tough to kill them with boosted char.

How do you all like this new meta? Any suggestions on how best to deal with them?

[Sekilicious]

While the Immortal Bros. are common there seem to be a few counters if you can mitigate the match and AoE damage. Reddit also has this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/comments/y53ysx/immortal_team_counter/

Colossus and Switch seem to be an effective counter if you target iHulk first to the point where Chasm does not tank anything. Electro and mThor mitigate the damage from hulk and deletes web and abyss tiles.

Out of curiosity, does Thanos proc Court Death when killing Chasm? Or does Chasm stun him before he can?

[HoundofShadow]

Break down the team composition and you will be able to think of a few counters:

1. Who mitigate AoEs?
2. Who mitigates match damage?
3. Who heals allies or who can true heal?
4. Who weakens their abilities?
5. Who mitigates or takes advantage of those web tiles?
6. How can you make iHulk tanks over Chasm quickly? (You need to down iHulk at least 3 times for him to tank all colours except purple).

When you know the answers to those questions, you’ll find your pick 2 or pick 3 counters against them.

[HoundofShadow]

I think it’s a case of giving someone fish and teaching someone how to fish. Also, the advantage is that it allows them to play with their own different ideas, rather than using a particular idea.

[Inekobasi]

Chasm sometimes locking up the game. İn this case oppenent’s ihulk couldnt tank the chasm even he reach his max match damage. So oppenent’s chasm kept making abbys tiles and this tiles turned into web tiles . So both of us’s chasms became invulnarable. İ kept playing this game for 15 minute but nothing changed. İ think this is a software bug. I’m not a “nerf” person but chasm need a rework.

[Sekilicious]

@Sekilicious

While the Immortal Bros. are common there seem to be a few counters if you can mitigate the match and AoE damage. Reddit also has this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/comments/y53ysx/immortal_team_counter/

Colossus and Switch seem to be an effective counter if you target iHulk first to the point where Chasm does not tank anything. Electro and mThor mitigate the damage from hulk and deletes web and abyss tiles.

Out of curiosity, does Thanos proc Court Death when killing Chasm? Or does Chasm stun him before he can?

On a related note, does Chasm have an good partners if you don’t have the immortals champed. I’ve see a couple of Chasm/Silk. I was thinking Chasm/mThor but they kinda seem diametrically opposed.

[Glockoma]

@Sekilicious

@Sekilicious

While the Immortal Bros. are common there seem to be a few counters if you can mitigate the match and AoE damage. Reddit also has this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/comments/y53ysx/immortal_team_counter/

Colossus and Switch seem to be an effective counter if you target iHulk first to the point where Chasm does not tank anything. Electro and mThor mitigate the damage from hulk and deletes web and abyss tiles.

Out of curiosity, does Thanos proc Court Death when killing Chasm? Or does Chasm stun him before he can?

On a related note, does Chasm have an good partners if you don’t have the immortals champed. I’ve see a couple of Chasm/Silk. I was thinking Chasm/mThor but they kinda seem diametrically opposed.

Chasm mThor are fine together as she provides an outlet to all of the other colors no covered by Chasm.

Good partners? Of course. Try SMPP and Miles. Such a fun team. Many more suggestions will come.

[Glockoma]

On another note, this thread made me smile as a much earlier thread, ( https://forums.505go.com/discussion/87385/chasm-i-hulk-thought#latest ), seemed to dismiss their relationship and thus, did not age as well. Some saw it coming; others did not.

Yes beatable, but preferable over skipping? Maybe not. Interesting dichotomy between the two threads.

[PiMacleod]

I’m just here to ask…

Why ChaHulk… I think Hulkasm sounds funnier.

[Borstock]

I had a double Chasm match that lasted over 40 minutes until I finally won.

I hate this meta.

[killahKlown]

Would it not have been easier to just tell him?

HA HA HA

[Sekilicious]

@İnekobasi

Chasm sometimes locking up the game. İn this case oppenent’s ihulk couldnt tank the chasm even he reach his max match damage. So oppenent’s chasm kept making abbys tiles and this tiles turned into web tiles . So both of us’s chasms became invulnarable. İ kept playing this game for 15 minute but nothing changed. İ think this is a software bug. I’m not a “nerf” person but chasm need a rework.

This is really a case of Chasm not being a good counter for Chasm. We should really work harder than requiring nerfs when we can’t bring any three random characters into a match and expecting to win easily.

[Timemachinego]

@dianetics

It is a little strange because he is not super easy to win with. I’m guessing he is out in place to discourage attacks and he is not used to climb with.

Ive tried to use him and he feels super slow. I’m PvE and PvP he feels some place in the middle. I would rank him a top 20 character. I probably don’t know how to use him properly though

Mine isn’t very well covered (and it seems he needs to be), I’ve only managed a few PVP wins with him and don’t really see the point of him beyond being a scarecrow. On PVE he’s at least useful for stopping the mindless ones’ pregame slowdown.

[mani82]

He s a somewhere in the middle character is the perfect assessment his scarecrow tendancy is self countered by him being relatively slow to get wins so he has a adjustment built within himself kindly don’t call for nerfs or adjustment it s too early and we l know how to use him and counter him as time goes by

[Sekilicious]

@Sekilicious

While the Immortal Bros. are common there seem to be a few counters if you can mitigate the match and AoE damage. Reddit also has this thread.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/comments/y53ysx/immortal_team_counter/

Colossus and Switch seem to be an effective counter if you target iHulk first to the point where Chasm does not tank anything. Electro and mThor mitigate the damage from hulk and deletes web and abyss tiles.

Out of curiosity, does Thanos proc Court Death when killing Chasm? Or does Chasm stun him before he can?

No response on Thanos-Chasm interaction but apparently a 550 Thanos is a great counter to iHulk. Crystal counters both by doing permanent damage

https://www.reddit.com/r/MarvelPuzzleQuest/comments/y5n0q6/duos_vs_chasm_ihulk_and_especially_the_550_chasm/

[BlixTheFrog]

I go with Crystal/Emma. It needs a bit of precision to kill both at once but it works. And Crystal’s healing gives you time to manage.

[St_Bernadus]

I think Chasm needs a rework not because he is unbeatable but boring. AP drain is anti-fun.

[Tiger_Wong]

Wanda
Elektro
5* Elektra

you can kill IHulk last or you can kill IHulk and chasm at the same time. You can kill them on their turn or your turn. You can kill chasm a bunch of times to get rid of his tiles and finally kill him when he’s under his tile threshold. Or you can kill IHulk a bunch of times to make sure he tanks so chasm doesn’t reach his revive threshold and then kill chasm and then kill IHulk.

its easy
its fast

you’re welcome.

[Borstock]

@Tiger_Wong

Wanda
Elektro
5* Elektra

you can kill IHulk last or you can kill IHulk and chasm at the same time. You can kill them on their turn or your turn. You can kill chasm a bunch of times to get rid of his tiles and finally kill him when he’s under his tile threshold. Or you can kill IHulk a bunch of times to make sure he tanks so chasm doesn’t reach his revive threshold and then kill chasm and then kill IHulk.

its easy
its fast

you’re welcome.

My Simulator scarecrow hasn’t been hit more than once in five days and 90% of my queues are Chulk teams. But I guess we are all doomed now since it’s so fast and easy.

[Tiger_Wong]

Yeah it is fast and easy. I guess it really will suck to be you then.