The problem, to me, isn't actually vaulting

[Spoit]

@DFiPL

@Brigby

@broll

@Jaedenkaal

@KinDM

What I don’t get is why things rotate so slowly. Like, why 3* characters are one new one in, one old one out. Why not just swap 5 old characters for 5 other old characters every season. Same to an extent with 4*s.

You can take that idea to its most absurd extent (rotate all 20 3s every day, so that your pool today has none of the characters in it from yesterday (although some from the day before that). Clearly in this system, pulling a token on a random day essentially gets you what amounts to a random 3, although since available characters are viewable I suppose you could save up your tokens for a day when the character(s) you “want” are in the available pool.

… I’m starting to like this idea, actually.

These are really good suggestions. Daily is a little much and season seems too rare. I’d like this concept applied weekly based on the featured/boosted characters for that week. This could also help D3 drive HP sales for people without the characters rostered/champed to try and get them in a hurry during those weeks.

Brigby could you pass these ideas onto the devs?

@broll
Absolutely. This is one of the threads I plan on adding to my weekly report, but I’ll be sure to relay @KinDM and @Jaedenkaal ideas of more frequent full rotations to the developers as I find it very intriguing; timing the rotation and characters to mirror the buffed characters is also a great idea, broll.

Not enough characters are buffed during a given week to fill the token, though; eyeballing it it looks like there are 7 4* and 7 3* buffed each week.

I guess maybe if you created a ‘weekly’ token similar to a Classic Legendary, but which contained the buffed 3’s and 4’s? Price it at 20 or 25 CP, tilt it towards the 3’s, but have a 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 chance to pull a buffed 4.

Keep the buffed 2’s out of it; there are only a couple in a given week, and nobody would be happy with a token that was a 60% chance to pull one of three 2*.

20 CP is way too much for a token that contains 3s. Maybe a 25 CP alternative to latest legends, with a limited selection of vaulted 4s (8?) and 5*s (3)

[DFiPL]

@Spoit

@DFiPL

@Brigby

@broll

@Jaedenkaal

@KinDM

What I don’t get is why things rotate so slowly. Like, why 3* characters are one new one in, one old one out. Why not just swap 5 old characters for 5 other old characters every season. Same to an extent with 4*s.

You can take that idea to its most absurd extent (rotate all 20 3s every day, so that your pool today has none of the characters in it from yesterday (although some from the day before that). Clearly in this system, pulling a token on a random day essentially gets you what amounts to a random 3, although since available characters are viewable I suppose you could save up your tokens for a day when the character(s) you “want” are in the available pool.

… I’m starting to like this idea, actually.

These are really good suggestions. Daily is a little much and season seems too rare. I’d like this concept applied weekly based on the featured/boosted characters for that week. This could also help D3 drive HP sales for people without the characters rostered/champed to try and get them in a hurry during those weeks.

Brigby could you pass these ideas onto the devs?

@broll
Absolutely. This is one of the threads I plan on adding to my weekly report, but I’ll be sure to relay @KinDM and @Jaedenkaal ideas of more frequent full rotations to the developers as I find it very intriguing; timing the rotation and characters to mirror the buffed characters is also a great idea, broll.

Not enough characters are buffed during a given week to fill the token, though; eyeballing it it looks like there are 7 4* and 7 3* buffed each week.

I guess maybe if you created a ‘weekly’ token similar to a Classic Legendary, but which contained the buffed 3’s and 4’s? Price it at 20 or 25 CP, tilt it towards the 3’s, but have a 1 in 4 or 1 in 5 chance to pull a buffed 4.

Keep the buffed 2’s out of it; there are only a couple in a given week, and nobody would be happy with a token that was a 60% chance to pull one of three 2*.

20 CP is way too much for a token that contains 3s. Maybe a 25 CP alternative to latest legends, with a limited selection of vaulted 4s (8?) and 5*s (3)

And I think it’s fairly common sentiment that 3600 is too expensive for HfH, and yet…

Would I prefer to see something more like 15 CP, since it’d be weighted towards 3’s? Yep. But I suspect that if anything like that happened, it would be a minimum of 20 and more likely 25 since it’d be a “limited” token.

[KinDM]

I think it would be a mistake to put any 3* into a token that costs CP. They’re so easily gained, that would be a huge waste of CP, unless each 3* pulled gave like 3 covers or something. It seems, from my experience, that a lil variety in available 3* would even things out, and it’s 4* where the vaulting has really hurt. Just my $0.02.

[Pla5yer99]

If we tag the 4 stars we want into a 4 stars only CP with better chances that will be good. Maybe we can get a special custom draw pack which we can select 5 to 10 4 stars which we can only draw with cp? This can allow us to boost our 4 stars champs to level 300 and above before it disappear from packs