The new 5 (War) can be found in the rewards section of SCL 10 in Heart of Darkness. Kit looks like it could be very disruptive. I imagine the numbers aren’t final yet as, with Toad, the green is creating way too many strike tiles and the purple seems super cheap for the number of trap tiles it creates. But who knows? Maybe they are just trying to mix it up a bit. For what it looks right now, best 5* in quite a while.
That’s funny, that’s the opposite of my assessment.
I know it’s really hard to tell just from reading the powers, and especially if numbers are yet to be set in stone, as you say.
The purple, whilst spammable will be relatively hard to trigger. For one thing there has to be an opponent turn, and that often isn’t the case these days… They only trigger on opponent match, not even destruction. I’ve never liked this implementation of trap tiles. I feel the Sinister rework has been the best implementation of traps.
The green is a complete nonbo with the purple trap tiles. Can’t evaluate the strikes yet because the text doesn’t even make sense. I presume this will soon be amended. I admit the board clear could be very good. Polaris combo! ![]()
The red is… a basic damage stick I guess? A bit boring… do the countdown tiles even do anything when they expire? Just the tick of damage at the start of each turn? Red skull’s red is similar and generally better in my eyes.
Totally agree red is nothing. But the green can mix things up and purple is super cheap. I think the devil is in the details and those numbers aren’t final yet. But first glance is that it looks fun and different to me. And maybe I’m just predisposed to liking something that looks at first glance that they could be at least a little bit of a PITA to play against. Totally could be wrong though.
Well, the “will this guy break into the high end metagame” question is super easy to answer these days. They either need an insanely strong passive or an active ability you can fire off support AP turn0 that’ll kill one or more of the enemy. War has neither of those things, so she’s not going to be in that tier, and I honestly don’t know how you could argue otherwise. The bar is just so CRAZY high right now.
There’s a second question more like “is this guy good enough to see use when boosted,” and I don’t see it with her, but maybe some stuff will get changed. The traps absolutely need to be a “match or destroy” trigger, and they need to trigger off either team. Otherwise, her purple and green conflict too much. Green also messes up her red, even though red is kinda bad anyway. Red needs to have something happen when the CDs expire or are destroyed.
Yes, this is one the most oddly contradictory power sets I’ve seen in a while; two powers focused on special tiles vs one that blows up half the board.
Everything seems to be at odds with itself to be honest… she does damage for each of her countdowns but has just a single mid-price power making 2 countdowns, she seemingly creates special tiles en masse when she nukes the boards but they are so weak as to be worthless without a special tile interaction & she has none.
War! Huh, yeah. What is she good for? Absolutely nothing.
So we’ve got ArchAngel Horseman of Death, OR horseman of pestilence, and now War. Looks like we just need famine and it will be time for the MPQ apocalypse.
The last few characters have appeared in game looking totally different than they look a week or two later, though, so let’s see if anything changes here.
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Just got 1250 shards for War but she doesn’t show up in the roster to be able to recruit her. It looks like she is fed by 4* Jean Grey.
I’m wondering about the wording for the purple. It has two effects & 50% chance to trigger either one, but is that definitely one or the other, or 50% chance for each?
If the latter then that’s a 25% chance it does nothing & 25% is does both?
Green is okay, but it’ll depend on the real numbers for those strike tiles. Probably only going to use it once per battle, though.
The last part of the red reads like War is doing the damage based on how many CD tiles there are, but the CDs don’t actually do anything themselves. It’s worded like a passive, though. Might be a good use for Hobgoblin’s blue to extend CD timers.
Come on, say it again!!
Same thing happened with Toad. Seems like feeder shards go live the night before and then they become recruitable at reset the following day. For me that’s noon EST
It is trivial but I can’t get past why it is War (First Horsemen) when the singular Horseman of xxx is used for Archangel and Omega Red
I was wondering the same thing.
It’s a very strange power set.
The last part of the Green power in brackets reads (does no damage) which leads me to believe you spend 8 AP to clear 4 columns for no damage then it adds some strike tiles. Seems to be a very useless power unless you absolutely MUST clear SAP tiles off the board or those strikes are way better than the text lets us believe.
Purple looks awful when the traps only work when enemy matches and the effect is random (stun or 2 AP gain).
If I’m reading the Red correctly, the CDs do a tick of damage for each turn they survive and when they reach 0 they disappear (similar to 4 star Medusa’s passive damage CD though hers at least does something when matched).
KGB
They were known as the first Horsemen in the Krakoa era of X Books. They are Apocalypse’s actual kids.
Okay, well that makes sense I guess. I don’t have the comic background, just English aesthetics. It is not that War is the First Horseman but they belonged to the First Horsemen (like X-Men you are not an X-Man).
So the vault is probably named wrong then as Warriors: Arrival of the First Horseman Seasonal Vault, it should be the arrival of the First Horsemen.
I’m also wondering why she has the Eternal affiliation? Aren’t those created by Celestials? My knowledge of them in comics is pretty limited, so I could definitely be wrong.
I was just able to recruit from shards after a game restart.