Classic Legends should have "classic" 4*s

The bonus & favorites part of the new change is great. The limiting 4*s from tokens to only the latest 12 is not so great. My suggestion:

Latest Legends have the new 12 as the available 4s.
Classic Legends have all the older 4
s.

This makes the 4s in LTs operate like the 5s do, and let’s players pick which pool of characters they’d rather pursue.

Thoughts?

First, I agree that this is a great addition, but yeah I really wish getting the older 4s wasn’t just up to favorites. Although, and I may be wrong, isn’t the 5% odds of getting a favorite still better odds of then before?
As a F2P player, even one that’s been playing since launch, I’m still working on getting most of the old 4
s, only having 4 championed 4s.
I think having different packs that offered the newer half and older half of 4
s would be a good idea.
That said, my initial thoughts on this change are mostly good. I think they’ve made things better vs worse, which is always appreciated.

How about just 12 random from the 4* not in latest. The list should change each season.

Right now there would be 29 4* in classic which still contributes to the dilution of the odds to get specific covers.

This is my only real issue with this system. Latest Legends should have been a group of the latest 4s and 5s from the start with Classics being everyone else. This change would have been a good time to do that, but instead they decided to go this direction. It’s really my only problem with this new system.

I need covers for all of them. Glad they are punishing me for only being at the 3* level of progression. What a load of misfortune

What would be even better would be a “classic” of 12 4* that are selected by you out of the pool not in latest. That keeps the odds the same that it looks like they are trying to do, but allows you to cherry pick the chars that you’re interested in.

The problem with limiting the old 30ish missing 4*s is that there is now a big disconnect from your ISO strategy to your CP/token one. My ISO demands are on older better covered toons that I’d like to still have options to pull from a handful that I want to level. Now the vast majority of my covers will come from non-fave pulls into toons that weren’t high on my ISO spend list.

If they don’t fix the ability to get the older 4*s then I will either be quitting or at the very least stop all spending including my VIP since day 1 streak. I’m not gonna pay for getting gut punched…

A better option would be to offer two of each type of token, one with the truncated choice of covers and one with the full set.

An even better option would be to allow us to manually select the 12 we would have a chance of pulling from the token.

I like. What about tokens with adaptive rates based on your own roster? It would base the pool on all of the characters you personally don’t have at 13 yet. Disney Crossy Road has a premium draw option like that.

Do I like this idea? Sort of.

Latest having only newest 5s & 4s with the rest being in Classics makes sense. But to me, the number in each doesn’t. 5s are split 3 to 10 and this would splits the 4s 12 to 43, soon to be 12 to 45. I would increase the numbers in the Latest a little bit so the splits are more like 1/3rd to 2/3rds, so 4 to 9 & 18 to 37(soon 19 to 38).

Thoughts…

I kinda wish I hadn’t re-upped VIP this morning, and I might retire at the end of the season.

How did you pay? If you payed through google play contact them and they will definitely refund it to you. Don’t know about any of the other platforms though.

I made a similar suggestion in the rapidly growing main thread:

Yeah, you’re wrong. icon_e_wink.gif
If you only care about getting covers for one hero, the 5% is an improvement. If I were to go favorite all the older 4s that I have champed, I’d have to divide that 5% by 30 favorites and get 1/6th of 1%. That’s a huge reduction. (Though it is mitigated by the fact that the bonus draw is in addition to the newer 4 you drew in the first place.)

If they’d just implemented the bonus draws without limiting the 3* or 4* pools you could draw from, this would be a wholly positive change and most everyone would be very happy with it.

What they really need is a 3/4 star.png
token with all characters

That’s what I thought had happened when I first started reading the announcement… icon_e_biggrin.gif

Then I got further down… icon_e_confused.gif

Then I reached the end… icon_rolleyes.gif

Agreed, change Classic Tokens to contain all older 4*s, and then I’ll be 99% happy with this change

Hate the change because I thought it would be this. Cannot believe they didn’t leave a (half-decent) way to get the older 4*'s.

Why did I spend my ISO to champ ~30 older 4*'s again?!?!?

It is crazy really how narrow the margin between a positive change and a quit-worthy one is, without the vaulting part of this change, it would have been a very nice addition that has unfortunately been almost ruined by the vaulting component.

Hypothetical future:

  • I spend 200 CP every 2 weeks to open 10 Classic Legendary Tokens - 1 of them is the newest 4* in the pool
  • Every 2 weeks or so they introduce another 4* and bump out the oldest 4* in Classics
  • 6 months go by with this pattern and I’ve collected 13 covers (6/3/4) but can’t champ the character
  • Then another 4* is introduced and my original 4* at 5/3/4 leaves the Classic Token pool
  • I eventually get the last cover to champ from an event reward OR vault OR Bonus Hero draw
  • Then I never get another cover again and the character stays at level 270 forever, ignoring the champing system

And this pattern repeats over and over and over, leaving all 4* Champs stuck at level 270 forever (maybe you’ll hit level 273 if you’re lucky)
Note: My Bonus Hero draws all go to older 4*s that never got champed before the Classic Token change!

The REAL PROBLEM is that new characters are released every 2 weeks! Slow down D3, we can never catch up!