I’ve been playing this game since there were just as many 3s as 2s and only 2-4*s.
Right now it’s expanded beyond what many are capable of keeping up with. Any person downloading this game for the first time has a huge mountain to climb, that they will most likely never reach.
Here is my suggestion:
When a new character is introduced, give everyone 1 cover.
Yes, give. Everyone. With a roster slot. Yes.
Is that so crazy? Here’s some arguements to support this:
1 cover is just as good as 0.
1 cover allows players to compete in the next PVE which means more user / player engagement. (I stopped playing competitive PVE)
1 cover means more incentive to buy (gasp) more covers with
because you cannot buy any covers…if you have no covers. (another problem that needs addressing)
I don’t like the idea at all. Then the game becomes 100% play to win, at least with the present system (even with its flaws) it still requires some game play to advance your roster.
D3 doesn’t want people to progress fast. They believe, and are most likely right, that they lose less players due to frustration at lack of progression than they would to players who grow bored with progressing too fast. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but there have been a lot of studies in this subject.
What if the new cover was the highest progression reward rather than the top 150 placement award? That way everyone has a chance at the cover, but you still have to play a fair amount to earn it.
To make that fair, you would have to set it far above the 3* cover progression mark.. which at that point you would be t100 anyway… so… you got the cover anyway.
I have a crazy idea (this is genuine not being spiteful) where they introduce max levelling. Have these (red maybe?) iso gems rare as
where it’ll level any character to it’s max potential. You could use it for incomplete or fully built characters.
someone suggested having a **** progression every pve at twice the *** progression number. that is a lot but can be hit by optimal play and some minimal grind, or suboptimal play with more grind. i might grind some for that, especially in shorter events (7-days of grinding is unfun).
I’ve suggested this before and still believe it’s a good thing for players and for business.
I’d implement this by making all 3 covers part of the PvE progression rewards during the character’s launch event. It’s extremely easy for any 3* transitioner to complete all progression rewards and so this effectively ‘gives’ out the first cover to all players.
D3 will then make more money from cover purchase (aka HP purchases) while admittedly losing some profits from token packs. I don’t have the internal numbers to justify this move but as a player it seems like a win/win situation.
I think an even better idea is to make all the cover rewards cumulative. When the first carnage event happened and the
reward was a
and the
was
many people tanked to get a lower reward which is just absurd. Instead of having this mystical cutoff why not just have ever increasing rewards so there is no reason not to push for as high as you can go for ever increasing rewards.
This does two things. First, it lets people that place well get 3* and 4* covers which are still valuable to a lot of people. In some instances, like a new 2* skill or character, even the 2* covers are valuable to people. At worst you have just given people an extra 500 and 250 iso.
Second, in a world with 2* essentials and the essentials are the placement rewards from the previous pve, placing high will make it so that you are always guaranteed to have all of the essentials for the next pve. Again, from the first carnage pve, multiple people in my alliance tried desperately to get
since he was essential but couldn’t until his progression reward. They were handicapped until they got that single cover which is silly because many of them placed t10 or higher in the previous pve.
This would also help free up roster slots if you know you can always count on getting the essentials as rewards. You can simply dedciate one roster slot for the 2*s you don’t want to keep for DDQ or other similar events and just rotate out the characters after every event.
No on the ‘present’ covers; that’s what placement is for, and I still like competition. I don’t want the game to go directly to PTW. I do want whales (no offense to any here) to have to play to get the covers they want; I don’t mind D3 making googleplexes of money on people buying cover packs; I mind that there are no longer guaranteed drops from them (I addressed that elsewhere).
Yes on “give the new thing to people who meet the threshold,” and we’ll make that threshhold, say, 2x the final bounty. So if the required 3* bounty level is 120k for the event, then the first cover of the new thing is 240k. That seems reasonable to me. It won’t be easy. Or free. But it WILL ensure that you get it. Also.
While I’m spitballing on the topic. Please ensure that in this world where this happens (and it’s a thought I had before, actually, so pretty easy for me to get behind it) that the cover provided is the one that is NOT in the 2 cover reward band. For example, New Character is R/G/Y. The max level reward is Yellow. So top 100 should be red, and top 50 should be R/G, thus, if you finish Top 50 (as I am likely to do since this week’s roster doesn’t play to my strengths) and you earned all rewards, you’ve got all three covers. Huzzah! I will now go buy HP to max those covers!
Huzzah! And I won’t stop spending money for six months because I got torched trying to get those covers and drew 42 2* & 3*s – FOUR TIMES IN A ROW ON A 6% DRAW RATE FOR A NEW LEGENDARY. Sorry.
You actually bought FOUR 42-packs? Even after seeing the awful odds? And you kept buying after your first, second, AND third 42-pack yielded trash? No wonder the devs love their degenerate token system.
I would love to see some actual numbers on this from reputable sources using statistically sound methodologies.
Sure, if you’re comparing far-end outliers from each dichotomous statistical group, this could be arguably possible (I mean, telepathy is arguably possible), but it goes a fair bit beyond counter-intuitive. It is a bit more palatable if the comparison is made between “fast progressors” and say the median group. Overall though? Yeah, I’m going to need some real data.
Put simply, if we’re comparing the feelings of data point “a” who finished the game inside of a week with another player, sure. But there are literally millions of data points between “too fast” and “for the love of God, does this grind ever end?”
what I’m just starting to realize is that the vast majority of forumites are actually those ‘far-end outliers’. we are not the majority of the player base, but we probably have most all of the high-end elite players, most of the whales and a huge chunk of the upper middle-class. really I think they have to have 2 goals - keep the whales happy to keep the game going, and keep the newer low-tier players happy because that is what hooks them and eventually a few whale out. really the middle and the majority of the forumites are likely not high business priority other than the chatter on the boards. I’d like to think that they use forum feedback in their decision (and recent decisions point to that), but business-wise, we’re down on the list of priorities. I’d be interested to see the data on the overall player base - what ‘average’ is. my guess is ‘average’ is probably a marginal ** roster. just taking event slice numbers into account, average means 500th in pve and 250th in pvp. but then there are noob brackets too, so taking those into account, overall average is like 600-700th in vet pve and 400th in vet pvp. kinda eye opening.
This will be easy.
Yes for progression covers, that is what story mode is for.
If you want competition that is what PvP is for.
First rule of mpq, do not buy cover packs.
Yes on the participation covers, I want to feel progress when I grind an event not be left with nothing after grinding in a super competitive group, why can’t we all be potential winners instead of fighting over a handful of covers. X amount of points = x amount of covers. You put in effort you get reward. i have a life as well and do not want to spend half of it grinding either. You are not really a fan of winning solely based on luck (getting into an easy bracket) otherwise you wouldn’t be so rattled over your unexpected results.
If I play a marvel game I want to play with my favorites and would want to max out them fairly quickly that I may pay to do it. this game is the first to make me think first about if they are any good because buying them out is so much of an investment. Then I realize what else I can spend my money on and go about my day.
Like your other points. Sorry about your bad luck.
